I read alot of people are swaping there isuzu for the getrag my question is why what makes it better ? thanks guys
The syncros in the isuzu stock are junk. Shifts harder. The getrag shifts smoother. No grinding when you put it into reverse because the reverse gear is also syncroed. I also believe the getrag is stronger, but have heard some complaints about the differential going to crap because of wheel hop. Search the forums about this subject. Just type "isuzu vs getrag" in the search box up top and you can get a lot more info for yourself.
ill look it up I typed in why getrag is better than the isuzu nut nothing came up I guess I shouldve been a little less direct. my car has a 5sp has a dip stick and is a 96 from what I've gathered its an isuzu right?
yep. all 1995-1999 j-body 5-speeds are isuzu. All 2000 and up 5-speeds are getrag.
SHOoff wrote:Isuzu 4 life!
isuzu til it dies for me, lol. Getrag sitting in my garage til that day comes...
how many miles can I expect from the isuzu? I have 210000.just did clutch 2k miles ago it wasnt slipping yet either and still shifts good
Well, as long as your nice to it... It can last as long as your car. I only have 133,xxx on mine and no problems yet... but I am not nice to mine. Still going strong. 210,000 miles is A LOT of miles... As long as it is shifting into all gears and not popping out, I'd say keep it.
yea it shifts great absolutely no issues. i dont beat the snot out of it but I occasionally shift hard and fast and have done a.couple dimp.clutches at 2k to smoke the tires and it.handles it like a pro
Well that's good. Whenever you find time, you should add your car to your profile. Fill in all your mods and stuff you have done to it. I like to see what other people have done to their rides without asking. lol.
My isuzu doesnt grind in reverse....you guys just need to learn to drive with an unsyncronized gear
95LsCoupe wrote:My isuzu doesnt grind in reverse....you guys just need to learn to drive with an unsyncronized gear
First off, I do know how to drive and I do know how to pop it into gear smoothly. Secondly, I am one of the few people on here that does not give you a hard time at all. I don't post places saying
YOU can't drive. Do I? Now I am beginning to understand why HardcoreXSunfire does not like you.
95LsCoupe wrote:My isuzu doesnt grind in reverse....you guys just need to learn to drive with an unsyncronized gear
I always say, first before reverse, lol.
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I've destroyed both transmissions over the years....... Isuzus: I've destroyed diff's, Getrags: shift forks/syncros. I lean towards the Getrag because: you can get parts, more of them out there, easier to take apart, better over all design (trans itself, shifter assembly, hydrolics)
Just my opinion, but thats what you asked for.
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ive had bad luck with isuzu's and their syncros like so many others.
although ive driven many j-bod's over the years with everything from the 3 spd auto to the older NVG-T550 and everything in between and i have to say i prefer the isuzu's shifts over the newer getrag. to me the getrag just seems notchy and harder to slam gears with. the NVG-T550 is the way to go if you have an LD9 though. its IMO the best trans, lasts the longest and has the best gear ratio's. however... the trade off is the fact they are getting HARD AS HELL to find and the ones you do find need rebuilt... and ive yet to find any replacement parts.
i also like the isuzu for the fact you can mix and match lots of ratios and diff's from other, more performance oriented vehicles to give you more options.
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-Z Yaaaa- wrote:i also like the isuzu for the fact you can mix and match lots of ratios and diff's from other, more performance oriented vehicles to give you more options.
this is the exact reason I'll be sticking with the Isuzu for my car. I personally find it's easier to play with over the Getrag. Also, I've seen a couple Getrags blow out oil from friends cars and customers at my current job.
my friend is giving me a trans from an Isuzu Impulse he's parting out and helping me build up the spare trans that I got.
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SpeedRacerZ wrote:I've destroyed both transmissions over the years....... Isuzus: I've destroyed diff's, Getrags: shift forks/syncros. I lean towards the Getrag because: you can get parts, more of them out there, easier to take apart, better over all design (trans itself, shifter assembly, hydrolics)
That is pretty much the reason I am switching to a getrag. The parts for a rebuild are still available and though the Quiafe is hard to find, the OBX LSD seems to be doing well for people. I also had a chance to drive a supercharged 02, and it shifts soo much nicer than my Isuzu ever did ( stock or rebuilt )
-Z Yaaaa- wrote:ive had bad luck with isuzu's and their syncros like so many others.
although ive driven many j-bod's over the years with everything from the 3 spd auto to the older NVG-T550 and everything in between and i have to say i prefer the isuzu's shifts over the newer getrag. to me the getrag just seems notchy and harder to slam gears with. the NVG-T550 is the way to go if you have an LD9 though. its IMO the best trans, lasts the longest and has the best gear ratio's. however... the trade off is the fact they are getting HARD AS HELL to find and the ones you do find need rebuilt... and ive yet to find any replacement parts.
i also like the isuzu for the fact you can mix and match lots of ratios and diff's from other, more performance oriented vehicles to give you more options.
My first choice was the NVG-T550 since I do not have to change mounts, cables, etc. The other down side is if you do find parts, they are more expensive than F23 parts.
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Blwn LD9 wrote:SpeedRacerZ wrote:I've destroyed both transmissions over the years....... Isuzus: I've destroyed diff's, Getrags: shift forks/syncros. I lean towards the Getrag because: you can get parts, more of them out there, easier to take apart, better over all design (trans itself, shifter assembly, hydrolics)
That is pretty much the reason I am switching to a getrag. The parts for a rebuild are still available and though the Quiafe is hard to find, the OBX LSD seems to be doing well for people. I also had a chance to drive a supercharged 02, and it shifts soo much nicer than my Isuzu ever did ( stock or rebuilt )
One of our regular vendors has the quiafe listed on their site. I'll have to look again to see whom it is... but even still although its findable, its expensive. I'll be keeping the getrag in my car and eventually dropping the quaife in =) ....
I've never heard about getrags throwing diffs, however they throw synchros and the dog teeth rings all the time... especially from first to second, and from second to third...
F23 till i die =) ... that is unless someone figures out how to make an F35 work =P
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Mystic02VA (GME Chat) wrote:that is unless someone figures out how to make an F35 work =P
Why so you can kill 3rd gear all the time? Not the synchro's the actual gears. The F23 is stronger than the F35. And it seems like only cobalt guys are murdering the synchros in f23s. I've heard f23's cracking the tranny case if you wheel hop the @!#$ out of them.
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