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Re: Going to court for neons.
Tuesday, April 26, 2005 7:03 AM
Chicago I think still has a NO underbody lights allowed


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Re: Going to court for neons.
Tuesday, April 26, 2005 6:20 PM
well here in alabama you can have any color as long as it isnt red or blue. but with your ticket if he didnt stop you when he saw you then he cant give you a ticket. it like if you speeding and you pass an officer and he doesnt stop you , he cant see you the next day and say im giving you a ticket for speeding yesterday.
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Re: Going to court for neons.
Tuesday, April 26, 2005 7:25 PM
^^ If hes got you clocked and knows fro sure its you he can.

Same with running red lights with traffic cameras, does a cop gotta pop out of the camera and give you a ticket? Nope, comes in the mail... got two of em


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Re: Going to court for neons.
Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:53 PM
GO FAST NOW,
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Re: Going to court for neons.
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 4:40 PM
Here in Montgomery... you can have any color lights inside the car and the bulbs can't be visible... and no underbody lights...that doesn't keep me from having them but i don't drive around with them on outside of parking lots. You can have them on in parking lots because it is private property.. Also, if he gave you a ticket in the wal-mart parking lot and said it happened there... just say it is private property and he had no right to give you a ticket without a complaint by the owner of that property.That's what i would have done haha.. but atleast you don't have that ticket anymore
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Re: Going to court for neons.
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 6:08 PM
Perhaps I can offer some insight into the situation and save all of you from some tickets in the future (providing your states have laws similar to the one I live in / Work for)

For the record I am a member of county law inforcement in Illinois.

1. Some states have specific colors of lights which are not allowed to be put on the vehicle.. the way the law is written in my state, illinois, no vehicle except for police, fire, or ems, is allowed to have RED lights facing any direction except REAR (Note the rear only is listed to account for brake lights / tail lights and can not / will not hold up in court if you attempt to apply this to neons/undercarriage lights.)

The most commonly banned colors are:

Red, Blue & White - in most states those colors are reserved for law enforcement / public service only.


2. A lot of states have stipulations for neons and undercarriage lights which allow for them to be turned on when the vehicle is NOT in motion.. therefore, if you are sitting on a parking lot or at a car show and wish to turn on your neon lights that is ok... however having them on while driving can/will get you cited.

3. There is a process that goes on when an officer sees a vehicle which is violating a law no matter how minor. 9 times out of 10 unless the act is extremely dangerous and is going to cause a major accident and/or death he will follow the car while he runs the license plates. At that point it is ran through LEADS which is a nationwide database.. essentially he is checking to see if the car is stolen, running with expired tags, etc. He will also usually run the info on the registered owner for his own personal safety and the safety of innocent civilians who will undoubtedly be nearby at the time of the stop.. The information he requests refers to gang affiliation, weapon charges, warrants, etc.. this is for his protection as well as innocent civilians' protection.

4. The officer is only required to put the location of the stop down on the ticket. That is for the records in case it was to come up in court.. There is no law that would prevent a cop from following you after a violation in order to observe and run the processes described in section 3 above. In most cases, if he is going to pull you over he is going to try to find an area with the least amount of traffic.. That is for your protection as well as his, as he may sometimes ask you to get out of your vehicle... personally I would rather stand on a parking lot than a busy freeway to write a ticket / talk to a person I have pulled over... I would hate to see a simple citation on a moving violation to end up with someone getting ran over by a car.

When you boil it all down, take my advice and simply leave the neons OFF while driving.. when you pull into a parking lot to talk to your buddies turn them on.. Also if you do happen to get pulled over by a police officer be as polite as possible we are all trained to expect the worst when dealing with people.. so at first we're all going to be very skeptical and wary of any possible dangers.. when we're sure there is no danger to ourselves or others we will be much more cooperative.. but if you get pissed and start letting your mouth run, expect the same from the officer.

Hopefully this will keep a lot of you out of a ticket.
Re: Going to court for neons.
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 6:25 PM
bizzle wrote:he had no right to give you a ticket without a complaint by the owner of that property

Read what he wrote carefully because it is copmpletely ture. a complaint made by the OWNER of the property. A manager or employeee has no legal power to make a complaint about the usage of the property, because it isnt theres (in most cases). This also applies to if you were to get "kicked out" of a store. Only the actually owner has the true legal power to do this.

Good info by Skoal up here too ^^^

Also note than green is a common illegal color, as some states use them for service vehicles.

But do check with your local laws, I know MN has slightly different laws then stated. Heres a letter I got from the MN Attorney General's office:

Quote:

On behalf of Minnesota Attorney General Mike Hatch, I thank you for your e-mail received on November 8, 2004.

You ask if it is legal in Minnesota to have a flashing blue light in a car, as well as other car lighting questions in general.

Under Minnesota law the Attorney General’s Office has limited authority. For instance, it has jurisdiction to represent State agencies. It does not, however, have jurisdiction to represent private citizens. Notwithstanding this limitation, I can offer the following comments, which I hope are helpful, and apply ONLY to civilian vehicles.

1) Any exterior lighting is limited to white and amber to the front, and red and amber to the rear; with the exception of white reverse lights.

2A) Interior lighting that is legal while vehicle is IN PARK: Any and all lighting is legal. (Exceptions listed below).

2B) Interior lighting that is legal while vehicle is NOT in park, but NOT in motion: Any and all lighting is legal during the daylight hours. After daylight hours any and all lighting in which the physical source of light is below the lowest window line is legal. (Exceptions listed below).

2C) Interior lighting that is legal while vehicle is IN MOTION: Any and all lighting in which the physical source of light is below the lowest window line is legal. (Exceptions listed below).

Exceptions:

1) If the vehicle is PARKED and the driver is NOT occupying the drivers seat, any and all interior and exterior lighting is legal. (Other exceptions below apply).

2) Blue lights of any kind are specifically prohibited unless they are on road maintenance vehicles, emergency vehicles, motorcycles, or collector vehicles.

3) Any lights, interior or exterior, that would indicate impersonating a police officer or government official is illegal. This does not include red lights if they are not in a possition to be considered impersonating a police officer.

To answer your specific questions, a blue light of any kind, interior or exterior, is illegal. However, interior lighting that follows points 2A through 2C above is legal.


I talked to one of the Sergeants at the PD and he simply said "Just don't hurt anyone".

So again... Check your local law, hope your cops are nice, and yeah...


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Re: Going to court for neons.
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 8:43 PM
^^ yeah i agree that was good information given by Skoal.. I talked to a cop that i found sitting in a parking lot one night about this stuff and he told me like all that same stuff
goodluck everyone with not getting tickets


-bizzle
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