ive seen this on lots of hondas around here and as much as i dont like hondas i think its a good idea. instead of a stiffer motor mount they use a little bar shaped like a dogbone that attaches to the block and the rad support/bar. basically so the motor cant move around. could something like this be fabd up for j bodies? and if so is the rad support strong enough to hold the engine in place?
On the hondas they go to the bottom radiator support, which is called something else that slips my mind atm. I'm not sure if it can be done, but on the hondas i've seen that had them, the motor was not budging with stock mounts.
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Oedwards wrote:On the hondas they go to the bottom radiator support, which is called something else that slips my mind atm. I'm not sure if it can be done, but on the hondas i've seen that had them, the motor was not budging with stock mounts.
the only other thing that comes to mind is hondas don't make torque... whereas we do. most dynos i've seen have torque numbers almost equal to hp numbers.
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yep, it can be done... im in the process of doing it now, actually. although... im just using it as a stiffener "accent" bar to keep the motor from moving foward under load (like say when a 200 shot is sprayed lol) and being too hard on my existing mounts.
my setup consists of a phil lindsay (omfgz blasphemy) lower radiator support (its aluminum and has bars that connect it to the subframe) and a 1.5 foot long dog-bone style motor mount i got off a like 2000 dodge neon.
the cobalts have something similar available, the ingalls torque strut thingy but ive heard its junk....
Yup you will still need mounts, it is an extra support, above and beyond to assist in movement.
Ingalls is junk they bend over time and dont hold up.
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pics of said blasphemy Brad, im interested!
You dont want to do this. Run correct mounts. Some Big V8's do the same thing with chain to prevent the drivers side header from hitting the steering column on a hard launch, you owul dbe better off with a setup like that with a chain to limit the engine movement but not transmit the vibes like the bar would.
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who cares about vibes?
grow a set, shift the gears, and have some fun. end of story.
But vibes break things.
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A torque damper may be what you are after.
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That one would be OK, it shucks on the cobalt because whoever designed the mounting for it is a moron. That thing will NOT take any sort of bending force and like it. You need to orient it so that the ONLY force it sees is along the axis of the rod.
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its only blasphemy because he mocked the owner of the site and all the moderators due to a very long standing rule that he thought he was better than.. .JBO is not his playground... Everyone else who manufactures and sells here respects the premium membership rule, Support the site that is letting you peddle your warez.
Leafy (Club Jeffie FEA man) wrote:But vibes break things.
A chain will allow things to move before suddenly coming to a halt. That would do more damage than a mount that has almost no movement. I will take a strut that has a poly bushing over a half ass fix like a chain.
vibes break things? like what? the driver's tampon? LOL come on leafy, hondas have been solid mounting @!#$ for years and they arent having trouble snapping engine blocks, trans bellhousings, or really anything else. if the exhaust is a problem use a flex pipe.
Well they do break things. We plan on running solid mounts on the race car this year and we've had to run simulations on whether it would make the chassis fail (and it shouldnt fail for at least 400 hours of use, so we dont care).
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hey, you aint having fun unless you're breaking @!#$.
lol you should own a turbo dodge brad
Man that support looks really similar to mine .....
cant be. that support was supposedly thrown away.
It's nice to be injected but I love being blown.
Yeah, the original aluminum one was, lol it broke while jacking the car up.
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lighter than stock?
It's nice to be injected but I love being blown.
