i have some Eibach prokit springs i want to put on and it goes as low as 1.4 ...this wont blow my stock shocks will it?
yes it will. over time they will blow. just buy agxs now and save yourself the headache and the price of 2 alignments
Zen Marco wrote:i have some Eibach prokit springs i want to put on and it goes as low as 1.4 ...this wont blow my stock shocks will it?
Yes, it will blow your struts. You have to have lowering struts. The AGX, Konis, or Dspecs will work for you.
i rode them springs and stock struts for 20k or so miles. i lowered the car at 80k miles. you will eventually need new struts sooner or later.
but if you want to just lower it, it will be fine for a little while. ride will get crappier over time keep in mind.
allignment- i had one in the 80k miles i had this car.
it isnt like u will install them and first bump u hit the struts will explode. just be bouncy that is all.
( i am now using kyb gr 2 struts on both my cavs with the 1.4 eibach springs. rides great)
_Orange_04_Eco_ wrote:Jake wrote:i rode them springs and stock struts for 20k or so miles. i lowered the car at 80k miles. you will eventually need new struts sooner or later.
but if you want to just lower it, it will be fine for a little while. ride will get crappier over time keep in mind.
allignment- i had one in the 80k miles i had this car.
it isnt like u will install them and first bump u hit the struts will explode. just be bouncy that is all.
( i am now using kyb gr 2 struts on both my cavs with the 1.4 eibach springs. rides great)
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what is that supposed to mean?
ACav2Envy wrote:_Orange_04_Eco_ wrote:Jake wrote:i rode them springs and stock struts for 20k or so miles. i lowered the car at 80k miles. you will eventually need new struts sooner or later.
but if you want to just lower it, it will be fine for a little while. ride will get crappier over time keep in mind.
allignment- i had one in the 80k miles i had this car.
it isnt like u will install them and first bump u hit the struts will explode. just be bouncy that is all.
( i am now using kyb gr 2 struts on both my cavs with the 1.4 eibach springs. rides great)
People AMAZE me! WoW
what is that supposed to mean?
everything he stated is true....
it will be fine for a while, and progressivly get worse. You dont NEED to get struts right away but you SHOULD and will save you time/money in the end.
Mmmmmm... You do not need aftermarket struts. I have driven AND raced on factory struts for the better part of 3 years. I have replaced them only once - Last year. I check them reguarly and I do the work myself. btw, I am running on Eibach Sportlines.
The ride is pretty bouncy, and I would recomend getting aftermarket struts, but you do not NEED to have them.
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it will blow, and it will ride like @!#$... how long it takes depends on a few things... but its going to be sooner then you would like. save yourself money and the time of having to fix your mistakes and do it right.
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More than likely you're stock struts are already shot, i never knew mine were until i lowered the car. Mounts Struts et all were blown all to hell. Only think worth keeping was the old springs. Do it right the first time, i dont care what the cost. If you cant afford it, then dont lower the car period.
you should i repost the same thing that 10 people before me posted? if you accept bounciness as a good ride then your far from knowing anything about suspensions. then again what do i know right?
[quote=ßãggéÐÇåv98 (Ûñqùðtäߣè Øñé)]you should i repost the same thing that 10 people before me posted? if you accept bounciness as a good ride then your far from knowing anything about suspensions. then again what do i know right?
First of all - Read over your posts before you post - It will make it much easier for others to understand what you are saying...
Secondly - Zen Marco asked IF he could lower a Cavailier without getting new shocks - The suggestions by people to get new shocks to help with the ride are exaclty that - SUGGESTIONS! I simply stated that he COULD indeed lower the car on the factory struts - YES the ride will not be the same as a car lowered on aftermarket struts - BUT he CAN indeed lower the car and drive it. I simply answered the quesiton that he asked and did not ridicule anyone who made suggestions like you did.
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sndsgood wrote:yeah when my car got bouncy on my intrax springs and stock struts that was when i new they had gone. your car shouldnt be bouncing
I should be more specific as to what bouncy is. The car does not bounce up and down like John Candy's car did in "Uncle Buck". The car simply rides rough - Part of which can be attributed to the low profile tires. The struts are not blown - I checked them less than a month ago. Koni's are in my future and I know the ride will be better, but for now, my stockers will do me fine.
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as an eibach sales rep told me about 10 yrs ago. when i first purchased my eibachs from rksport. i asked specifically about this ,because i went ahead and purchased my springs and shocks from rk,and he(the eibach rep) told me that the springs had been tested with the stock equipment (shocks)and he said that the pro-kits were designed for the stock setup.NOW NOTE......this was around 10 yrs ago,before the sportlines even come out on the market. and i wont forget,because i was gonna send my shocks back,but rksport was telling me that they would have to charge mea restocking charge.AND MAY I MAKE A SIDE NOTE?dude if you wanna install yoursprings on your car without the shocks. dude its your car. you will not be the first todo it NOR the last..................as impatient as alot of people are on this site about installing stuff on their cars....example look at me..i have a hood that needs painting,but i dont care,i just wanted it on. alot of people buys springs before shocks...you really think that they wait? i bet over 80% of this site are riding on aftermarket springs with stock struts.
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He's got a point. I threw my Sprints on the stock struts just so I could go to a club meet with a decent looking car. I drove around with my friends for not even two hours and my kidneys were killing me. That night I threw on the D-Specs and man was I glad. The next weekend I had a JBOI meet an hour and a half from where I live and I honestly can't imagine what it would have been like if I left the stock struts on.
So yeah, you CAN run lowering springs on stock struts. Hell, throw on a set of GC adjustables and drop that bad boy in the weeds. If the question is simply "can I...", well, yes, you can. The question you need to ask is "should I...". And you already know the answer.
*droOpy* wrote:as an eibach sales rep told me about 10 yrs ago. when i first purchased my eibachs from rksport. i asked specifically about this ,because i went ahead and purchased my springs and shocks from rk,and he(the eibach rep) told me that the springs had been tested with the stock equipment (shocks)and he said that the pro-kits were designed for the stock setup.NOW NOTE......this was around 10 yrs ago,before the sportlines even come out on the market. and i wont forget,because i was gonna send my shocks back,but rksport was telling me that they would have to charge mea restocking charge.AND MAY I MAKE A SIDE NOTE?dude if you wanna install yoursprings on your car without the shocks. dude its your car. you will not be the first todo it NOR the last..................as impatient as alot of people are on this site about installing stuff on their cars....example look at me..i have a hood that needs painting,but i dont care,i just wanted it on. alot of people buys springs before shocks...you really think that they wait? i bet over 80% of this site are riding on aftermarket springs with stock struts.
I installed AGX's with my Prokit the first time. Granted i had tons of cash when i came home from Iraq, and added a full exhaust, and other suspension components.
i had blown stock rear struts on my wifes 02 ls sport with 23k miles. that was odd. put kybs on that right away. stock ones up front.
any sorta lowering on this car will make it ride like crap. i have rode in a lot of j bodys with different set ups, from e bay coilovers to mantapart/bilstien set ups. i loved my eibachs(1.4) on the stock struts with like 80k miles on them over any of them set ups.
and if you really want to cheap out, thrown some honda S2000 springs spacers out back.
i had a buddy with dropzone springs, eibach sway bars and good tires autocross and place pretty damn good most the time.
then again, i amaze people. lol (f'in as$clown)
