OK, before anyone tells me to search...
I have searched and read almost every available thread about them and I read the FAQ also. I would like to just get all this info into one thread.
I am seriously thinking about gettin my suspension done on either Tein basics or the SS coils for christmas. I just want opinions on which way you would go and answers to my questions below. This is my everyday daily driver and definetely would love to keep my costs as low as possible, but suspension is a big deal to me. So I want a good ride (stock feels good to me), but also want a good drop too for looks and handling is a big plus but I know it's not an issue with either of these kits. I mostly want coils because of the lift/lower option, so I hope it is not a pain to lower them. SO...
1. With the basics, what is the difference in Part Numbers for the 1" shorter rear spring?
2. How do you actually lower/raise them; like what is involved and how long it takes?
3. What other parts would be good compliments to the coils (like specific sway bars or other stuff)?
4. What is so great about the SS's pillow ball mounts?
5. Does the SS ride dramatically different than the basics?
6. Are the SS's drastically worth the extra couple hundred $, cause I more than likely won't want to spend the time messing with the settings anway (but i will if its easy enough)?
7. Confirm: I need an alignment after the install but no camber kit or anything?
8. Do you think they would be good for just driving daily, with no kind of racing intended?
Thanks for the help, and I know I will have more questions...
as soon as Event posts u'll know everything but u should know it will NEVER feel 100% stock on coilovers....so if u cant take some bounce and learn to avoid potholes...avoid this now
Yeah I know, I was gonna say somethin about event postin cause I know he has somethin to say. I definetely can take some bounce or even some stiffness, and right now I avoid as many potholes as I can, which isn't too big of a problem around here.
Atk2008 wrote:OK, before anyone tells me to search...
I have searched and read almost every available thread about them and I read the FAQ also. I would like to just get all this info into one thread.
I am seriously thinking about gettin my suspension done on either Tein basics or the SS coils for christmas. I just want opinions on which way you would go and answers to my questions below. This is my everyday daily driver and definetely would love to keep my costs as low as possible, but suspension is a big deal to me. So I want a good ride (stock feels good to me), but also want a good drop too for looks and handling is a big plus but I know it's not an issue with either of these kits. I mostly want coils because of the lift/lower option, so I hope it is not a pain to lower them. SO...
1. With the basics, what is the difference in Part Numbers for the 1" shorter rear spring?
2. How do you actually lower/raise them; like what is involved and how long it takes?
3. What other parts would be good compliments to the coils (like specific sway bars or other stuff)?
4. What is so great about the SS's pillow ball mounts?
5. Does the SS ride dramatically different than the basics?
6. Are the SS's drastically worth the extra couple hundred $, cause I more than likely won't want to spend the time messing with the settings anway (but i will if its easy enough)?
7. Confirm: I need an alignment after the install but no camber kit or anything?
8. Do you think they would be good for just driving daily, with no kind of racing intended?
Thanks for the help, and I know I will have more questions...
to start, the only way you will bounce on these is if you run down cobble stone roads with full hardness front and rear and the strut is basically overpowering the spring. thats more of a user error though.
1) call up tein direct and get the part numbers. basically you shouldnt really have a need for 1 inch shorter rear spring. they go low enough, not to mention the point of paying this much isnt to ride on bumpstops...
2) same as every other coilover, loosen the collars rotate up or down. if you look at a picture its self explanatory.
3) get the coilovers first. for starters it looks as if you are just looking to buy a slew of parts and not really know the handling differences or changes that will be made. most people dont need alot of excess parts, but buy em simply because they are available. add one part at a time and know what the changes its making to your car.
with the adjustable damping, theres a crap load of setups to run through before any need to add any swaybars. strut braces should be enough, which will let the suspension do its work. plenty of this type of info in the FAQ.
4) provide accuracy, and NO FLEX as opposed to stock rubber mounts. think about it. solid metal bearing or rubber that flexes... you spend over a thousand on a precision suspension, a few hundred more on braces such as struts braces, and subframe etc... why leave a weak link?
5) yes and no... it can, depending on where its set at. adjustable damping of the strut.... you control hardness and softness.
6) if you can turn an ignition key, then you can adjust damping. even the most handicapped with basic gripping skills and rotation of the wrist can do this. worth it. thats up to you. any time i have options its worth it for me. you have to make your own call there. no one should have to or tell you if something is worth it. not saying that in a mean sense, but you should know what you want out of a suspension. some people want adjustment, others dont. personal choice.
7) yes alignment, no camber kit, that is if you dont run around slammed. if you adjust em to where its lower than stock, but higher than slammed, you should be more than fine. keep the arms parrallel to the ground and you shouldnt have any problems...with damaging the struts or alignments, or even if you need a tow.
8) yes... i drive daily through baltimore, md ...the inner city, going from school to school for work. part time i drive all over baltimore county from store to store.... both my jobs require alot of travel. personal vehicle travel. i have no complaints.
i lower the damping when needed, and i up it when at a track. thats the advantage i spoke of above on whats worth it to you, or me or the individual.
Thanks man for taking the time to answer my questions. I really want the basics just cause they are cheaper and I could spend that somewhere else, but I am sure if I don't get the SS's I will regret it down the road. It's a hard choice. I just can't decide if I would really use the extra SS features. O well, thanks again, and if anyone else has input feel free. (Pics would be more the great too)
I have the SS and wouldnt trade them for anything in the world. I have road around in my buddies koni sport setups, and they are nice to. IF you want balls out best, then you cannot go wrong with tein SS
They are also on my DD cavalier and they are nice, just sucks being around rough roads and when you have to go "off roading" (live sorta by farm country), otherwise they own.
Have the basics, check out the classifed, i got them for sale
