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leaf spring conversion
Friday, December 07, 2007 11:42 PM
hello i have a 97 z24 automatic 4 speed
(traction control is disabled i.e. hand break is pulled up 1 click or in first or second gear)
i have a semi decent track built on my grand-pa's farm ive noticed that when i power over around a corner the out side wheel tends to "skip" off the ground as i pull the corner.

will a suspension kit fix this or would building a leaf spring kit for the rear end be a better solution i have brand new leaf springs for a subaru justy and i know alot of highly skilled welders

any ideals on this
i dont necesserly want to lower the car the track is on an old farm and the track it's in the back 40

car is completly stock except for cereramic break pads

Re: leaf spring conversion
Saturday, December 08, 2007 8:41 AM
wow... lets just say no to leaf springs. BAD idea. what would be a better idea would be an IRS (independent rear suspension swap). instructions available in the sticky at the top of the page.



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Re: leaf spring conversion
Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:17 AM
IRS better idea



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Re: leaf spring conversion
Saturday, December 08, 2007 3:34 PM
Your problem is lack of travel, not lack of independence. You need to run at least a longer spring, if not that and a longer strut. Alot of rally cars have struts in the rear, but they run a much longer than stock spring to acquire the travel. If you were to swap to IRS, you would still have the same problem as you do now, just with IRS. You may actually get more travel with leafs, depending on how many you run in the pack and what rate they are. It would be an interesting swap. I would love to see what you had planned for the "axle", since the twist beam would no longer be useable. But I think thats way too much work to do when you can just as easily pick up some threaded body shocks and run longer springs. IRS would be the next logical step, but again, it seems like you're building on a budget, so I wouldn't even recommend that, when the type of thing you're doing will work fine with just more travel.




Re: leaf spring conversion
Saturday, December 22, 2007 10:31 PM
how long would they need to be? and is a coil over a possible idea and am not on that tight of a budget i just have alot of parts laying around and thought i might be able to use them


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Re: leaf spring conversion
Sunday, December 23, 2007 4:42 PM
I don't know of anyone whos actually done something like this before, and I don't have enough knowledge of rally setups to figure it out, so I have no idea how long they would need to be. They would have to be a coilover though. You could probably use an off the shelf kit with longer springs, all mounted on a long travel threaded body strut. You should hit up the SCCA forums and talk to some of the rally guys to see what they say.




Re: leaf spring conversion
Sunday, December 23, 2007 10:00 PM
well if you could go to a Corvette Leaf spring maybe (yes even the C6's use leaf springs) lol but they are no standard leaf spring... to answer your question... go to a IRS set up from the Grand am i think it is... or just put up with it



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Re: leaf spring conversion
Tuesday, December 25, 2007 6:46 PM
i would like more information about the longer springs and struts it would provide me with the travle i am looking for with less done time of the vehicle


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Re: leaf spring conversion
Tuesday, December 25, 2007 9:57 PM
would a tie bar help thin in any way what so ever


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Re: leaf spring conversion
Wednesday, December 26, 2007 7:29 AM
Theres several companies that make threaded body struts (which would be much better suited to this application than a threaded sleeve for strength and reliability, plus more adjustment). Penske and Koni are two off the top of my head. You would need to measure up the stock mounting points and figure out what fits. But you still need to talk to some guys who run similar weight/setup cars and find out what they run. I don't think theres anyone here who does that.

Anything that ties the suspension togther will help out. In rally racing, theres quite a bit of body flex, so taking as much away as possible is a good thing. You would probably need to reroute the exhaust and use a triangulated brace to save ground and upward travel clearance though.




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