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Aluminum GA Control arms..
Friday, July 01, 2011 8:21 AM
Is anyone modding GA control arms these days?

I got a set here that need to be welded up and new ball joint holes made.

Re: Aluminum GA Control arms..
Monday, July 04, 2011 3:49 PM
Misinblu did mine years ago, do a search on this board for his name and pm him to see if he's still doing the mods.
Re: Aluminum GA Control arms..
Monday, July 04, 2011 4:07 PM
also interested. my stock bushings are shot, and would rather just swap new arms in than pull and replace the bushings.



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Re: Aluminum GA Control arms..
Tuesday, July 05, 2011 7:01 AM
Re: Aluminum GA Control arms..
Tuesday, July 05, 2011 7:23 AM
OEM wrote:How bout some tubular ones


not at 5x the cost



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Re: Aluminum GA Control arms..
Tuesday, July 05, 2011 7:29 AM
Qwibby PTE Powered wrote:
OEM wrote:How bout some tubular ones


not at 5x the cost



gotta agree here......price is just not worth it to me.....i can see spending a decent amount but no where near the now asking price






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Re: Aluminum GA Control arms..
Tuesday, July 05, 2011 8:39 AM
I can understand that.


If you need a set modded we can do it. Just need a spec sheet of what needs to be done. Probably lookin at $50 a side to mod.


Mark


http://www.overkillengineeringmotorsports.com/
Re: Aluminum GA Control arms..
Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:47 AM
hell i might take you up on that mark i have a set here doing nothing.



Re: Aluminum GA Control arms..
Tuesday, July 05, 2011 4:15 PM
OEM wrote:I can understand that.


If you need a set modded we can do it. Just need a spec sheet of what needs to be done. Probably lookin at $50 a side to mod.


Mark


Trying to decide...I gotta do some measuring since im getting your camber plates with the up and comming gp. I apparently can take up the slack with those. But not sure if I have 1/2" of room in my fenders.

As for the spec sheet persay..

Fill in the old holes and drill new ones a 1/2" back, and trim off the end of the control arm that 1/2"
Re: Aluminum GA Control arms..
Tuesday, July 05, 2011 5:58 PM
I have a set modified and was planning on getting a unmodified set and handing them to my machinist to see what it would take to get some around, however due to somewhat fear of lack of interest and lack of participation i backed out and then mark came out with his tubular and sure enough he got the same sort of interest i expected and which is the same kind of interest i feared i would get. I think misn's how-to is pretty spot on for anyone to either do themselves or find someone to do.




Re: Aluminum GA Control arms..
Tuesday, July 05, 2011 6:45 PM
its really not that big of a deal... surely there are experienced welders local to just about anybody that can handle the job.




Re: Aluminum GA Control arms..
Tuesday, July 05, 2011 7:06 PM
one day i will run GA control arms....just gotta be willing to fork out the cash. I want the OEM tubular arms but they are waaaaay out of my budget.





Re: Aluminum GA Control arms..
Tuesday, July 05, 2011 7:15 PM
Misn's how to is great.

I just dont have the know how when it comes to the welding. Ive read about cast aluminum crystalizing and all that..makes me nervous.
Re: Aluminum GA Control arms..
Tuesday, July 05, 2011 8:22 PM
I have a couple welders local, but they both said the same thing that they can't gaurantee that the aluminum will stand up to being welded, they said because it was cast that it would probably fall apart. I just don't want to be out a pair of arms.



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Re: Aluminum GA Control arms..
Tuesday, July 05, 2011 8:33 PM
Well I know it can be done... Obviously but don't feel comfortable with the thought of a ball joint falling off lol.
Re: Aluminum GA Control arms..
Wednesday, July 06, 2011 4:34 AM
if you're on coilovers or have adjustable pillowball mounts, you can run the arms un-modded.

I have a set on my DD currently. Toe was out massively when I first installed them, but I've fixed that and now I'm working on setting my camber properly. when I first installed them negative camber was 1* on one side and 2.5* on the other.. now that toe is set I need to re-measure.





Re: Aluminum GA Control arms..
Wednesday, July 06, 2011 5:34 AM
Rich Grayo Jr. wrote:I have a couple welders local, but they both said the same thing that they can't gaurantee that the aluminum will stand up to being welded, they said because it was cast that it would probably fall apart. I just don't want to be out a pair of arms.


I probably would not use that welder then lol. These aluminum arms are forged.

mark


http://www.overkillengineeringmotorsports.com/
Re: Aluminum GA Control arms..
Wednesday, July 06, 2011 9:25 AM
lol @ cast arm, one pot hole and its done.



Re: Aluminum GA Control arms..
Friday, July 08, 2011 2:57 PM
The guy that did my welding for me knew exactly what GM had done with the aluminum arms and how to weld them.
I've never had a report of any of the arms I've sold go bad, break off or have any issues on the ball joint connections.
I've been running mine and I'm not easy on the car and not one bit of an issue if the guy that's welding them knows what he's doing.

Also, it's quite easy to do, and all you need to do is take exactly one half inch off of the end of the control arm to make them work.
If I can do these all by hand with the cutting, shaping, and finishing then ANYONE can do these, and is why I did the how to for everyone to do these if they can find a welder competent enough to do the welding.

Mark, this is something that you should look into for your customers that have the arms and want them welded.
No blueprints or exacting measurements are needed to trim these and the group purchase that went on a couple of years ago showed that they could be done by machine and look reasonably good. Mine did look better btw.

But I'm no longer doing these since my welder took over 3 months to do a simple weld job and after that I decided to give it up on making these work.
Plus the last couple of sets that I made, one was sold, and the other set was never paid for by a well known poster here on the JBO. So I lost alot of time and money on that deal which I let go and considered it a loss. No hard feelings to the individual but considering that he's one of the more respected members here I'd have never thought that I wouldn't get paid either. Such is life.

Mark @OEM, here's your calling to do something for the members here that want something like this done.


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Re: Aluminum GA Control arms..
Friday, July 08, 2011 3:16 PM
Ok guys. How many want this done? I can grab a few sets at a local yard. Would you like them done100% from me or send them in? Or both?


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Re: Aluminum GA Control arms..
Friday, July 08, 2011 4:39 PM
I will probably be interested...

Depends what the pillowball mounts are going to run me And also if I can get away with sticking my tires out another half inch or not. hehe.

I think it should be a option..like a core system.

If it got me a cheap set I could grab you a few sets as well from our local yard.

Re: Aluminum GA Control arms..
Sunday, July 10, 2011 9:24 AM
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Re: Aluminum GA Control arms..
Sunday, July 10, 2011 10:25 AM
All I want done is the holes welded. The cutting and drilling I would do on my own.



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Re: Aluminum GA Control arms..
Sunday, July 10, 2011 11:18 AM
^^^ I second that
Re: Aluminum GA Control arms..
Sunday, July 10, 2011 8:30 PM
I'm currently working on a set.. Other then welding this is something that most people should be able to handle on there own for a fraction of the price of having someone else do them. Just follow the how to and pay attention to detail..
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