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What do you use.... sway bar mount related
Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:22 PM
You all know how our mounts are... horribly held by one bolt with bracket hole bigger than the bolt, so it slide all over. What do you guys use to hold it in place? I tried lock washers and it still slides. What do you all recommend?



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Re: What do you use.... sway bar mount related
Friday, September 09, 2011 12:56 AM
New brackets and new polyurethane bushings. I've never had a problem with mine moving. Ever.




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Re: What do you use.... sway bar mount related
Friday, September 09, 2011 1:30 AM
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Re: What do you use.... sway bar mount related
Friday, September 09, 2011 9:04 AM
Roofy wrote:New brackets and new polyurethane bushings. I've never had a problem with mine moving. Ever.

I was looking for what to use so the the bracket doesn't move forward and back. What people used to hold it in place. GM decided it would suffice with one freaking bolt. It doesn't help that I am using a 25.4mm bar too.



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Re: What do you use.... sway bar mount related
Friday, September 09, 2011 9:11 AM
Progress sway FTW!!!!!




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Re: What do you use.... sway bar mount related
Saturday, September 10, 2011 7:59 AM
Anyone have any ideas?




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Re: What do you use.... sway bar mount related
Saturday, September 10, 2011 12:27 PM
mine doesn't move at all...weird


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Re: What do you use.... sway bar mount related
Saturday, September 10, 2011 6:15 PM
front? rear? I dont have that issue in the rear and havent much checked the front.


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Re: What do you use.... sway bar mount related
Saturday, September 10, 2011 8:38 PM
conservative sway bars don't have this problem, just the liberal ones.

maybe you should convert.








Re: What do you use.... sway bar mount related
Monday, September 12, 2011 11:15 PM
Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:
Roofy wrote:New brackets and new polyurethane bushings. I've never had a problem with mine moving. Ever.

I was looking for what to use so the the bracket doesn't move forward and back. What people used to hold it in place. GM decided it would suffice with one freaking bolt. It doesn't help that I am using a 25.4mm bar too.


I was just suggesting thay maybe your brackets are stretched allowing them to move?




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Re: What do you use.... sway bar mount related
Tuesday, September 13, 2011 5:56 PM
Leafy (Club Jeffie FEA man) wrote:front? rear? I dont have that issue in the rear and havent much checked the front.

It would be the front.
Yhea, the rear is okay, I do shoot silicone and all is well back there.
Here you can see the paint shaving. It is greater than the bolt's head btw, indicating movement.


Roofy wrote:
Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:
Roofy wrote:New brackets and new polyurethane bushings. I've never had a problem with mine moving. Ever.

I was looking for what to use so the the bracket doesn't move forward and back. What people used to hold it in place. GM decided it would suffice with one freaking bolt. It doesn't help that I am using a 25.4mm bar too.


I was just suggesting thay maybe your brackets are stretched allowing them to move?

Oh yhea... I'm well aware of these brackets being out specs, ofcourse so does GM with their TSB.
BTW... GM did change the brackets, i've changed them about 3 time already. See if you can tell the difference.





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Re: What do you use.... sway bar mount related
Wednesday, September 14, 2011 9:04 AM
The tab looks a little more angled toward the base. Have you tried poly mounts? I am about to get new mounts for mine and I want to find an option that will last.

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Re: What do you use.... sway bar mount related
Wednesday, September 14, 2011 9:35 AM
I've always ditched the crappy hardware that comes with them and picked up some stainless fasteners, with threads at least half way down the bolt, that way I can get some really good preload on the bushings without the nuts running out of threads. The ones that come with it aren't threaded nearly far enough down the bolt IMO. After that I haven't had much of a problem.



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Re: What do you use.... sway bar mount related
Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:25 AM
I have these http://energysuspension.com/products/Sway-Bar-End-Link-Bushings.html Part# 9.5158R .I took a grinder and ground down one tab to make it fit snug in the slot.The stock brackets that I had were rusty .Did you try a locking tooth washer?Maybe bend the tab a little?
Re: What do you use.... sway bar mount related
Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:52 AM
Transporter7220 wrote:I've always ditched the crappy hardware that comes with them and picked up some stainless fasteners, with threads at least half way down the bolt, that way I can get some really good preload on the bushings without the nuts running out of threads. The ones that come with it aren't threaded nearly far enough down the bolt IMO. After that I haven't had much of a problem.


You, go buy new bushings and replace the ones that you @!#$ to hell. The proper tightness for sway bar end links is just tight enough that you can barely turn the washers/spacers by hand.


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Re: What do you use.... sway bar mount related
Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:55 AM
That also makes them chatter like crazy every time you hit a damn bump. @!#$ that.



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Re: What do you use.... sway bar mount related
Friday, September 16, 2011 12:08 AM
Leafy is correct on the end links.^^^

durandall05 . wrote:The tab looks a little more angled toward the base. Have you tried poly mounts? I am about to get new mounts for mine and I want to find an option that will last.
Actually, the lip is longer. I have not tried poly bushings. The bars works just fine. By me adding the poly, it would move even more as the poly is stiffer... causing the bracket to be pushed and therefore move more than with the rubber mount.

Transporter7220 wrote:I've always ditched the crappy hardware that comes with them and picked up some stainless fasteners, with threads at least half way down the bolt, that way I can get some really good preload on the bushings without the nuts running out of threads. The ones that come with it aren't threaded nearly far enough down the bolt IMO. After that I haven't had much of a problem.
I've noticed on the threads too. I think what GM did by removing the thread is for you to guide it in. I tell you this because I bought some new GM bolts for it and they are thread down. And every time I put one in, the bolt goes in and gets all out of shape. About 3 yrs ago I did it on a lift and after 5 hrs I gave up and put in the original half threaded one, and in under a minute, it was all good.

01SilverFire wrote:I have these http://energysuspension.com/products/Sway-Bar-End-Link-Bushings.html Part# 9.5158R .I took a grinder and ground down one tab to make it fit snug in the slot.The stock brackets that I had were rusty .Did you try a locking tooth washer?Maybe bend the tab a little?
I looked at those and I like them, but the hole is even longer and all I can see is it moving more. Yes, I tried the lock washer and all it did was grind the bracket to the point of rust lol.




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Re: What do you use.... sway bar mount related
Friday, September 16, 2011 12:27 AM
Maybe control arm bushings are loose allowing the sway bar to move???




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