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Maybe im just going overboard but I was just wondering if it were possible some kid from youtube said he did the swap from a 92 buick park ave to a 96 z cavalier but i don't see how it is possible to get the pass key, ipc, air bag module, or abs to work properly considering one is obd 1 and the rest is obd 2 any information on if the swap has been done or if it is even possible would help me greatly.
you really have no idea............ first, search. Secondly, yes it is possible, but not worth the hassle.
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Did my research no one has ever done it and it is not mentioned anywhere except how to do the series 2 which is obd 2, i do have an idea i dont see that is possible unless you completely gut the car and swap everything wiring harnass and computers, ect and then still have it run right, and what all do you have to do to make it possible if it is so godly one, all you had to do was say, yes here is how its possible or no this is why its not possible, no need to be a dick
Its a fail swap. Thats all you need to know.
Your better off finding a 3400 motor. MUCH MUCH MUCH better.
+1 on the waste of time. Granted it has some torque, but it's only got something like 160hp. You'd be better off with a 2.4 swap or an ECO swap.
Get at least series 2 if you're gonna do a 3800.
i find it amusing that SHOoff has nothing better to do but follow me around & be an unhelpful dick in even cross-forum. - Jon Mick
Im not doing the swap not at all if i were i would put a 3400 i was just wondering since the kid that told me he did it wont shut up about it on my videos on youtube so thanks for all for telling me that is was underpowered, i already knew that, i was just asking is it was worth it
Why would I waste my time and post up every possible link to a series 1/2 swap into a jbody? Like I said, search, the information is out there, and again I will say, it IS possible, how much work and what you have to swap is self explainatory, common sense if you really are interested in going through with the swap, if it isnt common sense, it is over your head... plain and simple.
Erik Packard wrote:Im not doing the swap not at all if i were i would put a 3400 i was just wondering since the kid that told me he did it wont shut up about it on my videos on youtube so thanks for all for telling me that is was underpowered, i already knew that, i was just asking is it was worth it
Got a link to one of these videos? I have a 3400 swap. I'll talk some smack to him for ya.
i find it amusing that SHOoff has nothing better to do but follow me around & be an unhelpful dick in even cross-forum. - Jon Mick
SHOoff wrote:Erik Packard wrote:Im not doing the swap not at all if i were i would put a 3400 i was just wondering since the kid that told me he did it wont shut up about it on my videos on youtube so thanks for all for telling me that is was underpowered, i already knew that, i was just asking is it was worth it
Got a link to one of these videos? I have a 3400 swap. I'll talk some smack to him for ya.
I got yo back! DO IT!
i bag my head on the wall over threads like this usually because people have no clue on the cost of things and just because there grandparents gave them the 92 Park Ave they think its an awesome deal. yould be better taking the engine from you moms van then your grand parents car
JBO since July 30, 2001
wow thats all but yes its possible yes its a waste of time i did it i used a 94 buick regal motor and harness made it all work waste of welding wire and time
I am considering swapping in the series 1........ I don't see why not, it drops right in,
right? Power potential is there,
right? No? I am still doing it just to spite the haters then!
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Looks to me like the kid is just posting a bunch of BS because his mommy never payed attention to him. Only vid I see of him is driving a 95 with a 2.2, and being a retard at that.
i find it amusing that SHOoff has nothing better to do but follow me around & be an unhelpful dick in even cross-forum. - Jon Mick
Thus why I am mocking... he calls it me being a dick, I call it having fun, either way, I still sleep very well at night.
No, i am not swapping the series 1 3800 in my car at all if you would read the post Isaak, and Yep i sleep good too considering my cavalier with the 2.2 ohv thats i built and is running almost faster times then your black sunfire with a bottle hooked up lol
Holy @!#$ I am impressed!!!
Your
BUILT 2.2OHV motor almost runs faster times than what my
STOCK 2.2 OHV motor ran on a 75 shot (and no traction)........ well @!#$ me, that is awesome, congrats.
You posted
"any information on if the swap has been done or if it is even possible would help me greatly" makes it sound like you are interested in doing the swap... you want information on it to help you, so if you are not doing the swap why care about what needs to be done about it? Seriously chill out, damn kids these days.
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Series I swap isnt worth it....HP and TQ numbers compared to a series II for one, might as well swap the series II ....plus the deck height on the series I is an inch higher than the series II, which i would imagine would cause problems with hood clearance and all....plus OBD I vs OBD II as previously stated....anyway....go series II, end of story....
One thing I always wondered...why dont people do the series III? Just wondering? I know they are 20HP more...teflon coated rotor blades on the supercharger, and bigger intake valves, and I forget the other stuff improved...I would like to see a series III done...
"Hondas are like tampons, every pussy has one!!!"
Series 2 are cheaper and more accessible, that 20hp gain can be achieved very easily and cheaply.
Erik Packard wrote:No, i am not swapping the series 1 3800 in my car at all if you would read the post Isaak, and Yep i sleep good too considering my cavalier with the 2.2 ohv thats i built and is running almost faster times then your black sunfire with a bottle hooked up lol
First of all, you do realize that an attitude like this is what makes people talk @!#$ to you right? Being cool with people always gets you more respect than just straight up being a dick like that.
I wasn't referring to you in the last reply. I was talking about the doucher that's posting in the youtube videos. But now I see possibly WHY that happens.
i find it amusing that SHOoff has nothing better to do but follow me around & be an unhelpful dick in even cross-forum. - Jon Mick
SHOoff i wasn't talking to you and yes i know i was going off the deep end with that comment but that Issak guy wants to be a dick so i will be one right back to him about how he was saying he calls it me being a dick, I call it having fun, either way, I still sleep very well at night., and Issak i was just wondering if anyone on here had accomplished the swap, but thanks for the information on how its not worth it, if i were to consider a swap i was looking into the 3400 swap, it just seemed a lot more accessible and would be a lot less welding and fabrication, so thanks to all
See, thats not so hard now is it.... you don't know me, I don't know you, you took what I said the wrong way, @!#$ happens, period.
As far as the 3400 goes, highly recommended as it is less work than the 3800 and it provides plenty of power with some aftermarket to boot, better than any (99% of most) 2.2OHV. The 3800 is a lot of work, wiring, subframe/mounts some custom work but when its all said and done, it moves like a bat out of hell and the aftermarket is endless if you have the cash.
Yeah i dont have the endless cash supply for the 3800 swap i have about a 2 grand budget so thats why i would opt for the 3400 swap, and sorry Isaak you just rubbed me the wrong way with your comments, but next time i'm not gonna blow up like that on a fellow j body member, we all drive j bodies so what does it matter how fast it is or what it looks like its the fun in modding one, but thanks for telling me about the series 1 tho i would never do the swap the kid on youtube supposedly did but if he did it, it was a waste, thanks to all for telling me about it and why it was so bad and why it shouldn't be done and probably never has been
David Ortlieb wrote:Series I swap isnt worth it....HP and TQ numbers compared to a series II for one, might as well swap the series II ....plus the deck height on the series I is an inch higher than the series II, which i would imagine would cause problems with hood clearance and all....plus OBD I vs OBD II as previously stated....anyway....go series II, end of story....
One thing I always wondered...why dont people do the series III? Just wondering? I know they are 20HP more...teflon coated rotor blades on the supercharger, and bigger intake valves, and I forget the other stuff improved...I would like to see a series III done...
series 2 also has teflon coated rotors too the reason people don't do it is cause of the throttle by wire system however thats not a problem cause you can get an adapter to run a series to TB but the cfact the a series 2 is half the price and for 20hp you can make that up quick
when mine goes i'm doin a series 3 NA block and series 3 sc heads and charger
JBO since July 30, 2001
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