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How to: Tap oil pan/fab oil lines for your eco P/N# incl.
Saturday, July 21, 2007 3:32 PM
I'm not sure if there is any place that manufatures custom oil lines for our cars and from my experiance it is one of the hardest parts about going custom.. I'm sure this will be different depending on what turbo you are using, for me it is a Turbonetics TO4B Super S ball bearing turbo, the feed like is tapped for a 1/8" NTP fitting and the drain side of mine is equipped with a 10AN downdrain plate. so thats how i'm going to set this up.

Parts needed:
2X Fragola Part # 100110 (10AN hose coupler fitting)
1X Fragola Part # 497110 (Weldable 10AN male fitting for oil pan)
2X Fragola Part # 481604 (-4AN to 1/8 NTP Adapter fittings)
1X AFCO Part # 40262-24 (2ft" braided line with -4AN fittings)
1X2FT Fragola Part # 700010 (10AN braided line per ft. be sure to mention you need 2 ft to be safe)
1X Autometer 2278 tubing adapter

Tools needed (minimum):
Adjustable wrench
Hacksaw with metal blade
electrical tape
teflon or PTFE tape
OPTIONAL:
cut off saw
box end wrench set (met. and std.)
AN wrenchs

Now once you have the parts its pretty self explanatory, you take your 2 ft section of 4an line and screw in your 2 fragola adapters, one will go to the turbo.. the other into the Autometer adapter and into the side of your block for you eco guys.

Then you will see you will have to fit your AN adapters onto the 2 ft of hose you got. I would start off with one, find out what you need to cut and then merge the other end on.. there are detailed instructions here...
http://www.fragolaperformancesystems.com/38series3000hosecuttingassembly/series3000hosecuttingassembly.html
Then for anywhere from 70-100$ you have your oil lines out of the way.

TAPPING THE OIL PAN(ECOtec)
The best way to tap the oil pan is to buy the 10AN weldable fitting(or any) and have it TIG welded onto the oil pan because the threaded ones are notorious for leaks. You should be able to find a shop in your are that can do the welding for you.

As far as getting the pan off its no big deal at all.. here's how I did it.
TOOLS/EQUIPMENT
-A good METRIC ratchet set 3/8 or 1/2(maybe both to make it easier)
-a floor jack and 2 jackstands
-wood block
-LOTS of towels
-heat gun(optional)
-Prybar or screwdriver
-RTV sealant to reseal oil pan upon reassembly
-1 Can of brake clean or equivelent to get leftover oil off block/pan
-Tap set if nessecary

-Put a jack under the oil pan (be sure to use a block of wood between)

-Put jackstands uner the subframe so you have access to all the bolts without having anything in your way.

-Drain oil (good time for an oil change)
-while the oil is draing you should start taking all the electric connectors off the dipstick and take out the 10mm bolt that holds it on the intake manifold

-start pulling all the bolts out, this will require taking 2 out of the tranny and taking off the lower motor mount assembly which is no big deal because they are easily accesable.

-then once you get ALL of them out the pan will be stuck by the factory RTV used. There are plenty of spots around the pan to use a prybar or screwdriver to pry the pan off.. I would recommend that method, blows to the oil pan with feet/ dead blow hammers dont help much *I used a heat gun to soften the RTV around the pan*

-This is where all the towels come in, lay them all over to avoid a mess, other forms of containment would work too.

-Peel the pan off the block and manuever the dipstick through the wiring etc.

-place fitting directly above the drain plug

-Clean all surfaces very well to ensure no metal is returned into your oil system.

-put it all back together tightening oil pan bolts from the inside working your way out in a cross pattern.

DONT FORGET THE OIL!!



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Re: How to: Tap oil pan/fab oil lines for your eco P/N# incl.
Saturday, July 21, 2007 6:48 PM
you should tap the engine girdle instead of the pan, in the back center of the girdle is a hole that is very easy to tap placed at a 45 degree angle. disadvantages from tapping to the pan is if you dont tap it high enough in the pan it backs up back into the turbo and can easily ruin the seals in the turbo....


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Re: How to: Tap oil pan/fab oil lines for your eco P/N# incl.
Saturday, July 21, 2007 9:53 PM
chev_cav04 wrote:you should tap the engine girdle instead of the pan, in the back center of the girdle is a hole that is very easy to tap placed at a 45 degree angle. disadvantages from tapping to the pan is if you dont tap it high enough in the pan it backs up back into the turbo and can easily ruin the seals in the turbo....


Agree. Setting up a Ecotec for oil to a Turbo and drain is not hard.



FU Tuning



Re: How to: Tap oil pan/fab oil lines for your eco P/N# incl.
Sunday, July 22, 2007 6:33 AM
from my personal experience tapping the girdle is difficult with the motor in the car, it is also extremely difficult depending on where the turbo is mounted. For ease I tapped my pan and did not have a problem with it being to low on the pan. Just have to know what youre doing.





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Re: How to: Tap oil pan/fab oil lines for your eco P/N# incl.
Sunday, July 22, 2007 10:26 AM
Ok, im sure the oil pan works too if you have it tapped in the right spot, but I tapped my girdle w/motor in the car, difficult, but can definately be done. I just feel safer with the girdle tapped and also It has a nice 45 degree angled hole like I said..that is just screamin...TAP ME...hahaha


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Re: How to: Tap oil pan/fab oil lines for your eco P/N# incl.
Sunday, July 22, 2007 1:17 PM
John Higgins wrote:

Agree. Setting up a Ecotec for oil to a Turbo and drain is not hard.





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Re: How to: Tap oil pan/fab oil lines for your eco P/N# incl.
Tuesday, November 13, 2007 12:58 PM
could we see pics?


Re: How to: Tap oil pan/fab oil lines for your eco P/N# incl.
Friday, December 14, 2007 8:12 PM
word..

does anyone have pics of a eco pan with a oil return in it,
apparently theres a perfect spot to put it...i just want to see what others have done.




Re: How to: Tap oil pan/fab oil lines for your eco P/N# incl.
Friday, December 14, 2007 8:23 PM
do you want the pic of the girdle or the pan? i have the one of the girdle but no plan




Re: How to: Tap oil pan/fab oil lines for your eco P/N# incl.
Friday, December 14, 2007 9:56 PM
girdle please..
Re: How to: Tap oil pan/fab oil lines for your eco P/N# incl.
Friday, December 14, 2007 10:08 PM
how much line did you use from turbo to pan? i ordered the 18" piece thinking it should be long enough.




Re: How to: Tap oil pan/fab oil lines for your eco P/N# incl.
Friday, December 14, 2007 10:22 PM
I want a picture of the tapped girdle.



Re: How to: Tap oil pan/fab oil lines for your eco P/N# incl.
Friday, December 14, 2007 11:21 PM
the girdle isnt tapped, is just where to tap it, sorry for the confusion. still want the picture?



Re: How to: Tap oil pan/fab oil lines for your eco P/N# incl.
Friday, December 14, 2007 11:26 PM
yep.



Re: How to: Tap oil pan/fab oil lines for your eco P/N# incl.
Saturday, December 15, 2007 1:04 AM
I just use the K.I.S.S. method. Keep It Simple, Stupid. I used a 3/8" NPT barbed fitting that I got out of the heater HELP! section at my parts store. The Ecotec oil pan is thick enough to tap a couple threads into using a 3/8" NPT tap. And on my turbo I just got a Flange and pipe assembley off Ebay, connecting the 2 hose fittings, I used 5/8" ID silicon oil-resistant hose. I tapped the fitting into the pan about 1/2" away from the top edge, and with 5 full quarts of oil in my car, I haven't ever had a problem with slow drainback.






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Re: How to: Tap oil pan/fab oil lines for your eco P/N# incl.
Saturday, December 15, 2007 3:08 PM
anyone know the length for the turbo to oil pan line for the eco? just wondering... i ordered an 18" line so i hope its long enough.



Re: How to: Tap oil pan/fab oil lines for your eco P/N# incl.
Sunday, December 16, 2007 10:33 AM
I think mine was/is about 20".



Re: How to: Tap oil pan/fab oil lines for your eco P/N# incl.
Sunday, December 16, 2007 12:25 PM
I've been told tapping the girdle won't work with an auto since the transmission sits too close to the engine. Can anyone else confirm this?


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450WHP Turbo Ecotec swap in the works...

Re: How to: Tap oil pan/fab oil lines for your eco P/N# incl.
Sunday, December 16, 2007 3:37 PM



sorry for the late response, here is the pic. the red circle is where the dimple on the girdle is, and the blue is where greddy advises for the feed. Spilner, I have heard the same thing as far as the auto tranny thing but no conformation.



Re: How to: Tap oil pan/fab oil lines for your eco P/N# incl.
Sunday, December 16, 2007 7:15 PM
holy sex.. thats the exact pic i needed




Re: How to: Tap oil pan/fab oil lines for your eco P/N# incl.
Sunday, December 16, 2007 7:17 PM
what size threads are in the feed hole?





Re: How to: Tap oil pan/fab oil lines for your eco P/N# incl.
Sunday, December 16, 2007 11:30 PM
no idea, sorry.



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