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Water/Alky/Meth + 87 Octane?
Sunday, December 21, 2008 1:58 PM
Just wondering if anyone is using 87 octane fuel and some sort or water, alcohol or methonal injection system to prevent detonation.

I am personally considering a water/alcohol mix injection system on my M45 boosted LD9 daily driver just for the purposes of being able to run reflash timing and 87 ocatne fuel all the time instead of premium. Has anyone attempted this and monitered for detonation?


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Re: Water/Alky/Meth + 87 Octane?
Sunday, December 21, 2008 2:13 PM
It's a damn good idea. I'll give you that.





Re: Water/Alky/Meth + 87 Octane?
Sunday, December 21, 2008 2:34 PM
As low as fuel costs are, why??


Re: Water/Alky/Meth + 87 Octane?
Sunday, December 21, 2008 2:46 PM
I would not.

the tables for the flash from GM are only around 12* avd as it is.

Chris




'02 Z-24 Supercharged
13.7 @102.45 MPH Third Place, 2007 GMSC Bash SOLD AS OF 01MAR08

Re: Water/Alky/Meth + 87 Octane?
Sunday, December 21, 2008 3:23 PM
icemike89 wrote:As low as fuel costs are, why??


Because I work at Taco Bell, have two mortgage payments and 13 kids to feed.


- 93 mph in the 1/8 mile
Member of J-Body Of Michigan.

Re: Water/Alky/Meth + 87 Octane?
Sunday, December 21, 2008 3:32 PM
Gotcha. Were all like that, thats why we drive j-bodies.

Now I want a crunchwrap supreme.


Re: Water/Alky/Meth + 87 Octane?
Sunday, December 21, 2008 4:23 PM
what you mean by "WE"?


Chris




'02 Z-24 Supercharged
13.7 @102.45 MPH Third Place, 2007 GMSC Bash SOLD AS OF 01MAR08

Re: Water/Alky/Meth + 87 Octane?
Sunday, December 21, 2008 4:34 PM
Skilz10179 wrote:
icemike89 wrote:As low as fuel costs are, why??


Because I work at Taco Bell, have two mortgage payments and 13 kids to feed.





Re: Water/Alky/Meth + 87 Octane?
Sunday, December 21, 2008 5:11 PM
'cept methanol costs money too... but I guess if it runs fine on 87 in vacuum it'd be fine...

13 kids?


2001 Olds Alero (LD9)
636 whp / 543 ft-lb
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Re: Water/Alky/Meth + 87 Octane?
Sunday, December 21, 2008 6:28 PM
Joe Schulte wrote:
Skilz10179 wrote:
icemike89 wrote:As low as fuel costs are, why??


Because I work at Taco Bell, have two mortgage payments and 13 kids to feed.









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Re: Water/Alky/Meth + 87 Octane?
Sunday, December 21, 2008 7:11 PM
How about meth & a smaller pulley instead... you know you want to!


12.770 @ 111.99 Intercooled Eaton M62



Re: Water/Alky/Meth + 87 Octane?
Monday, December 22, 2008 4:28 AM
Smaller?


Eff that.

Bigger!

Chris




'02 Z-24 Supercharged
13.7 @102.45 MPH Third Place, 2007 GMSC Bash SOLD AS OF 01MAR08

Re: Water/Alky/Meth + 87 Octane?
Monday, December 22, 2008 10:28 AM
Jeremy it's hard to gauge the seriousness of this post...

-Chris-



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Re: Water/Alky/Meth + 87 Octane?
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 4:26 PM
just sell the set up and use meth.

problem solved.







Re: Water/Alky/Meth + 87 Octane?
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 6:08 PM
this thread is the best.



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Re: Water/Alky/Meth + 87 Octane?
Wednesday, December 24, 2008 11:07 AM
i like your style






Re: Water/Alky/Meth + 87 Octane?
Wednesday, December 24, 2008 11:36 AM
Now I want some loaded nachos. Damnit Im going to taco bell..


Re: Water/Alky/Meth + 87 Octane?
Sunday, December 28, 2008 3:38 PM
with 87 id probably run 75% or higher meth

other thing you can do is a boost referenced fuel system , and keep 100 or higher in a 2nd tank , either way heat build up is what you gotta watch along with the knock









Re: Water/Alky/Meth + 87 Octane?
Wednesday, December 31, 2008 1:57 AM
Yes you can do it, it is actually why water injection was originally used in the 50's for airplanes.

The problem you run into is that you really want to use a boost based injection, or ideally a tunable PWM system. It would take you years to see a return on the investment. This also assumes you run 100% water. If you run the standard 50/50 mix your looking at like $3 for 4L which will last you about 2 tanks of gas. This adds $1.50 to the cost of each fill up.
Re: Water/Alky/Meth + 87 Octane?
Wednesday, December 31, 2008 3:09 AM
Just run 91 and get another job, turning tricks is my advice since you seem to be very capable sexually, having 13 kids and all.



Re: Water/Alky/Meth + 87 Octane?
Wednesday, December 31, 2008 4:44 AM
Or the mail man is really happy.............


Chris




'02 Z-24 Supercharged
13.7 @102.45 MPH Third Place, 2007 GMSC Bash SOLD AS OF 01MAR08


Re: Water/Alky/Meth + 87 Octane?
Wednesday, December 31, 2008 3:20 PM
Coming from someone who had a car as modded as you did I can't take this post seriously . But I do like grilled steak taco's.


Windy City TurboZ
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