my Eco has 55000 miles and im wanting to put a saab setup on it, because one its cheap, and ok for stock engine since im not wanting to go to far into the power circle. Just wanting somethin fun for daily driver.
can anyone tell me exactly what i need or post links to it. ive tried searching and found nothing
thanks all.
good luck, i have been searching my ass off looking for a manifold x_x every parts site, ebay, amazon, etc etc @!#$ ic ant even find one used on the saab forums
thanks... i guess ill keep lookin. nice to know im not the only one ;p
worse case scenerio u'll have to get it from a saab dealer
what years am i lookin for anyway?
2003+ saab 9-3 all trims came with the parts ur looking for, although some came with a "high pressure turbo" which is fancy talk for same turbo just wastegate set higher for more boost
car-part.com
2004 saab 93
turbo
found about 30 of them under 500.00
horsepower is how hard you hit the wall, Torque is how far you push the wall with you
Wow...that's an awesome site! Yeah, there's a ton of saab 9-3 turbo manifolds on there. And turbos at that...
"You can only feed them semen for so long before their legs fall off."
what do you do for downpipe?
Downpipe is custom, or contact brandoson. He made mine
I did the saab setup for the same reason just wanted a fun car to drive and nothing too crazy and so far I am really happy
Jn2 wrote:2003+ saab 9-3 all trims came with the parts ur looking for, although some came with a "high pressure turbo" which is fancy talk for same turbo just wastegate set higher for more boost
same flange locations... completely different turbos. (not just a wastegate setting)
the low pressure turbo is a Garrett
the high pressure turbo is a Mitsubishi
Garrett turbo can be found on the 2003+ saab 9-3
B207L
Mitsubishi turbo can be found on the 2003+ saab 9-3
B207R
I have done extensive research on this. I have ran both turbos on my cavalier.
I made a jig for the downpipe and charge pipes I built for my car so that I could duplicate it for my brother and a few friends.
I have been making downpipes upon request for numerous people. My turn around time was pretty crappy on some of them though as I did the work on my free time.
I have used car-part.com for a long time. Its a great site that searches local junk yards. Most of them sell the manifold and turbo together.
If you get to a car before it has been ripped apart you will want:
Turbo (preferably the mitsubishi from a B207R but both are VERY similar in output)
Manifold (same for both turbos)
oil lines (dont have to use them but it sure makes it easy)
water lines for turbo (not necessary but will help keep it cool)
Throttle body intake rubber hose (its only about $30 from saab if you cant find one)
other than that you will need the other obvious things for a turbo setup... downpipe, charge pipes, injectors, something to control the fuel...
doing a search here on JBO will find you lots more info on the saab setup. I hope that's not what you meant when you said you searched and found nothing. The info is there.
"Growing old is mandatory. Growing up? Definitely optional."
i have done the saab turbo set up on mine now i am looking for a bit more power any ideas.. what injectors can i use and hat do u recomend for fuel manag?
good info provided ^ there.
as far as the other stuff goes, i have cobalt ss injectors and t map. GM reflash will work with the saab kit also, however a actual tune im sure would get you some more power. I am currently running 10 psi and love it. Car is fun to drive especially for being a summer DD. Just type in "saab kit" on the search here and you will find tons of info like brandoson said, the info is on here, just try searching some more!
CAR IS FOR SALE...Saab Kit, GM Reflash, 10 psi
How much can you find a brand-new SAAB turbo and manifold for? We may have an interesting alternative.
Bill Hahn Jr.
Hahn RaceCraft
World's Quickest and Fastest Street J-Bodies
Turbocharging GM FWD's since 1988
www.turbosystem.com
Not to be too mysterious, we have been looking at offering an affordable 300HP-capable TD04H turbo, turbo manifold, and oil feed/drain line solution that could also include an optional downpipe.
For one to be fully boosted, the remaining chores (all of which are readily available from a variety of sources and/or methods in the DIY approach) would consist of:
*Intake and charge air piping
*Intercooler (if so desired)
*Tuning/fueling solution
Edited 1 time(s). Last edited Friday, January 07, 2011 10:01 AM
Bill Hahn Jr.
Hahn RaceCraft
World's Quickest and Fastest Street J-Bodies
Turbocharging GM FWD's since 1988
www.turbosystem.com
Parts List:
Reflash- 12590819 (Automatic)
12590820 (5 Speed)
Manifold- 12786716(No Air Injection)
12794948(Air Injection)
Turbo- 55562670 (High Pressure)
12788719 (Low Pressure)
Oil Return- 12787669
Oil Return Gasket 90490305
Coolant- 12787770
12787767
Saab Upper Intake Hose 12786816
Oil Return Gasket- 90490305
Block Feed Adapter- 105-2278
Feed Adapter to Line- 361-AT981604
Feed to Turbo- 361-981504
Feed Length- 16 inches
Saab Green top injectors- 12801656
Spark Plugs- NGK 4306306
Threaded IAT(for setups without a TMAP)- Su107 or 2320
Boost Gauge- 4301
Catalytic Converter- 94036
Intercooler Size- 28x5.5x2.5
Charge Pipe Size- 2 Inch
T-Map 90423637 or a/c delco 213-3907
T-Map Harness 88988320
BP (brandonpauli) wrote:Parts List:
Reflash- 12590819 (Automatic)
HP Tuners
WIdeband
12590820 (5 Speed)
Manifold- 12786716(No Air Injection)
12794948(Air Injection)
Turbo- 55562670 (High Pressure)
12788719 (Low Pressure)
Oil Return- 12787669
Oil Return Gasket 90490305
Coolant- 12787770
12787767
Saab Upper Intake Hose 12786816
Oil Return Gasket- 90490305
Block Feed Adapter- 105-2278
Feed Adapter to Line- 361-AT981604
Feed to Turbo- 361-981504
Feed Length- 16 inches
Saab Green top injectors- 12801656
Spark Plugs- NGK 4306306
Threaded IAT(for setups without a TMAP)- Su107 or 2320
Boost Gauge- 4301
Catalytic Converter- 94036
Intercooler Size- 28x5.5x2.5
Charge Pipe Size- 2 Inch
T-Map 90423637 or a/c delco 213-3907
T-Map Harness 88988320
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Bill Hahn Jr. wrote:Not to be too mysterious, we have been looking at offering an affordable 300HP-capable TD04H turbo, turbo manifold, and oil feed/drain line solution that could also include an optional downpipe.
more info please
CAR IS FOR SALE...Saab Kit, GM Reflash, 10 psi
97&04cfcavy(04pearlcav) wrote:Bill Hahn Jr. wrote:Not to be too mysterious, we have been looking at offering an affordable 300HP-capable TD04H turbo, turbo manifold, and oil feed/drain line solution that could also include an optional downpipe.
more info please
You bet! I'd like to add that I am in no way trying to downplay the Saab turbo approach, as I can tell its supporters have put a lot of effort into it and frankly, I am impressed.
So as not to completely pirate this thread, I'll start another one about our new concept.
Bill Hahn Jr.
Hahn RaceCraft
World's Quickest and Fastest Street J-Bodies
Turbocharging GM FWD's since 1988
www.turbosystem.com
and this thread would be called??????? lol im interested.
horsepower is the force that determines at what speed you hit the wall, torque is the force that determines how far you take the wall with you after you hit it.
haha sorry...I have not yet finialized this setup. Stay tuned, you'll see it soon.
Bill Hahn Jr.
Hahn RaceCraft
World's Quickest and Fastest Street J-Bodies
Turbocharging GM FWD's since 1988
www.turbosystem.com
I know you need a different air mass sensor, could you use a saab MAP or no?
horsepower is the force that determines at what speed you hit the wall, torque is the force that determines how far you take the wall with you after you hit it.
Forgot to ask you Bill, if i get your port fueler kit, would i still need an upgraded air mass sensor?
horsepower is the force that determines at what speed you hit the wall, torque is the force that determines how far you take the wall with you after you hit it.
02 silver cavy wrote:Forgot to ask you Bill, if i get your port fueler kit, would i still need an upgraded air mass sensor?
Give me a bit more info...what car are you asking about; I am guessing it's not a J since you mention a MAF?
Bill Hahn Jr.
Hahn RaceCraft
World's Quickest and Fastest Street J-Bodies
Turbocharging GM FWD's since 1988
www.turbosystem.com
