so i was thinking about this, do they make an aftermarket master cylinder that has a threaded rod on it? cause if they do, then theres the fix! i had one on my old 91 240sx, and i could adjust it easily. or is there one already one the car? like maybe inside the master cylinder? not inside the car, but on the outside of the firewall? just thoughts.......
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I was about to ask the same question, i just put in a spec stage 3 clutch and flywheel and it engages at the top of the peddle, I needed it closer to the floor, it's causing me to ride the clutch to much
I know I was looking at my fly wheel and clutch last night and I noticed that there is about a 1/4in of gap between the fly wheel and the pressure plate. I was thinking about it last night that when it is tourqued down ti brings the fingers in more which makes less distance to dis engage the clutch. I think that it is going to be one of those deals that you will not be able to adjust unless the make the risers off the fly wheel a little longer. I don't know much about clutches but it sounds like that this could be why. I could be wrong.
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ok this is getting annoying as f***! i bought a new clutch to fix this problem, so what im asking now, is will getting a fidanza flywheel fix this high-engagement problem? i have to the money to get the flywheel, so i just need to know your guys opinions on it. thanks
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You call that a problem? it's not a problem, it's the driver that is the problem. Sorry but most of the time aftermarket clutch are made so it's easy to race with them. Try doing a really fast shift when you have to go all the way down. That's why it's so "high". Ever drove a 1500? that's high. if you can't drive a stick cavy, buy another car. I.e. a civic.
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Mfk-223 wrote:You call that a problem? it's not a problem, it's the driver that is the problem. Sorry but most of the time aftermarket clutch are made so it's easy to race with them. Try doing a really fast shift when you have to go all the way down. That's why it's so "high". Ever drove a 1500? that's high. if you can't drive a stick cavy, buy another car. I.e. a civic.
Hay thanks for the info, buy the way I have a 2000 Sonoma with a stage 3 clutch the engagement is at the floor and my old man owns a 1500 and the engagement is no more then 2 inchs of the floor.
Sorry to tell you but I know how to drive, its just a @!#$ pain in the ass when you have been driving the same car for 4 years and the engagement was half way up and now its all the way up.
Matman, I have the flywheel your looking at so no it wont get rid of the "high" engagement, but it's still well worth the money to go out and get it anyways.
Oh i just looked at your 1/4 mile time slips @!#$ dude all that time and money put into your motor and you can't even brake into the 14's, now thats gotta suck, 15.6 was best @!#$ I think you need to learn how to drive.
Mfk-223 wrote:You call that a problem? it's not a problem, it's the driver that is the problem. Sorry but most of the time aftermarket clutch are made so it's easy to race with them. Try doing a really fast shift when you have to go all the way down. That's why it's so "high". Ever drove a 1500? that's high. if you can't drive a stick cavy, buy another car. I.e. a civic.
????????? The guy has Q's. That kind of stuff makes me not want to come on here.
Any way I just got my cav back today. I had the dealer install a SPEC stage II clutch and RKSport fly wheel for the ECO. The engagements are like night and day. The stock engagement is vary hight and is kind of a pain. But you should shift with it all thw way down. Now with the new combo in you barely let it out it want to grab and peddel is vary light. I still need to break it in. I'm at 4 mi now. So My thoughts stated above were wrong but a new clutch and fly wheel did solve the problem. I don't know if just a clutch would do the same? As for performance I'll let you know in a few weeks.
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I hit over 500mi yesterday and the peddle is back to the same hight as the factory clutch. One problem has developed, a noise when I let off the gas when coasting on the road makes a bearing sound. I think something is wrong w/ the throw out bearing. My buddy at the dealer is going to get back with me on it and we'll hopefull fix it. Let you guys
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Yellowcavalier ... welcome to the world of spinning sounds after installing a Spec clutch and flywheel!!! Mine has done it for so long, I just ignore it now! I've never figured it out and have ask here 2 or 3 times and no one really knows either. I get the same sound when I let off the gas, spinning sound like a bearing in a coffee can!
So, if you do find a fix, PLEASE email me!!!!!!!!
Eh...old man with a Corvette now...it was bound to happen sooner rather than later right?
Well I talked to my friend at the dealer and he said there was a bullitin about the cav manual trans making noises and to use the saturn fluid which is a little thicker. I don't think that this will help because every year since I bought it it was making a little chirping noise and we put the fluid in it and it stoped but the fluid would break down after about a year. This noise is a lot louder but I'll keep you informed. Tue I'm taking it up there and he is going to replace the fluid for me. Atleast I'm not loosing my mind!
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Here is a quote from an email conversation I had with Spec about the engagement position.
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We can make a plate with a lower height. We set them normally at 60% off the floor so it is easy to speed shift (the pedal doesn't have to go down far to release the trans).
David Norton
S.P.E.C., inc
800-828-4379
205-491-8593-fax
sales@specclutch.com
So it is possible to get a pressure plate that has a lower height to create an engagement earlier in the pedal travel. Mine engages at about 60%, so I dont know why you all have the high engagement problem.
I believe he said $150 to get a different pressure plate.
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I don't really care because that is where it is going to be. You should have asked them about the noises.
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Mines about 75% I'd think! The thing that bothers me and makes me think something is wrong is sometimes it's right off the floor! Not sure what does that but every now and then I'll be at a light and start to let up on the clutch some to take off and it grabs like 1 inch from the floor?? Most times, like 90% of the time it's about 1 inch form the top?
So who knows? It works and has held through 100's of launches so we'll just have to wait and see.
Eh...old man with a Corvette now...it was bound to happen sooner rather than later right?
I had that bearing noise and it was a loose alternator bracket. It happened after the clucth was installed so i thought it was the throwout bearing but it was just the bracket.
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I have that noise. It is only loud when the clutch is out and I am in neutral. It immediately quiets when I press the pedal in and disengage the clutch. Thing is if it is warm out it does not make the noise. Only makes it when it is cold.
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Has anyone here that installed a spec stage 3 noticed that starting from a light is really rough, kind of feels like wheel hop if you dont rev to at least 1800 rpm.
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That is clutch chatter, and most performance clutches will do that. It even says in their own documentation that you need to rev higher than stock to avoid chatter. It is the increased clamping force.
It is not as severe with a Stage 2 clutch. Stage 3 is overkill unless you are running boost or some serious HP in the cav. In my personal opinion, anyway...for what it's worth.
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You guys are complaining about high engagement? I wish I knew what I could do to get my stock setup to engage high. High engagement is better and makes for quick shifts, you shouldn't have your foot on the clutch unless you are shifting.
i have the SPEC Stage III...and yeah..unless i rev it a lil higher than i did with the stock clutch..i'd get that chatter.....and mine also has high engagement...but i'm so used to it now..it doesn't bother me
How long did you guys wait until you broke your Stg 3 in?
I have over 700miles on it,,, if I rev it the engine up to 4-5K and dump it into 5 my clutch will slip (while going 30mph)
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Broke my Stage 2 in for 1000 miles and did not really dump it from 5k until I had 3000 on it. Thing grabs like a champ...Absolutely no slip.
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mine is at 800 and grab good but I haven't done any high rpm dumps yet though.
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