hey guys,

i am wanting to buy a lsd for my 96 j but i dont want to spend an arm and a leg. i was looking into the phantom grip from highrevmotorsports.com do you think this would be a waste of my money? remember, i am running the spec stage 3 clutch, and fidanza flywheel. please let me know what you guys think....thanks again..

Honestly, I was meh on my clone of one. I even had heavy duty springs, and it didn't really increase traction that well for drag racing, if any at all. Maybe it's worth it for AutoX, but I have no experience with it.

In the end, you still have a weak ass Isuzu differential in there.


O noes!

...Id like to know the same thing. I am gonna be doing a complete tranny overhaul...got a new t.bearing, centerforce d/f, and am saving to buy a new tranny, alum flywheel, mounts, and phantom grip, if it is a nice item. Hey Daniel, how does your ride drive with the fidanza flywheel...I am a good driver, is it really quirky during city driving, or is it manageable? I hope it just takes getting used to, Id love to get one...




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its not that bad with a little practice...... very tolerable.........and sounds awesome with quick revs

I have one now, and I don't like it. It will be for sale once i get the new engine finished.




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Just ordered mine for my auto here: http://www.engineered.net/eplsd.htm

Don't know much about manuals, but they have one for the Isuzu coming out

there is very mixed opinions on the PG if you havent noticed.

options you have for LSD :

isuzu : not much, some were lucky and got in the GP back when they made quaifes (sp?) otherwise PG or some clutch type

new getrag(f23) : GM's dif for the f25 might work, the idea has been tossed around (im not saying it will or wont cuz i dont know), maybe some quaifes still around as well, also PG and same same

old getrag or NVG : Torsen dif from achievas (rare) or same other options as above

youll be lucky to get a real lsd for anything less than 900-1000. i was lucky and got a torsen but it wasnt cheap. i just now have enough to get it in my car.. pics are in my reg. will be in soon when i get time.



Sven you totally quarterloafed your computer..

i need a torsen for my W41 trans , my scx is gonna suck with out a LSD


LOL

do they make a torsen setup for th fwds? I have one in my ws6 car and in the 94 formula

the gm lsd is made by quaife

We've had pretty good luck with our units.

Smokey, get better tires....... cause you know you where spinning both Your only going to get as much traction as your tires let you.






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Jrobz23 wrote:tnew getrag(f23) : GM's dif for the f25 might work, the idea has been tossed around (im not saying it will or wont cuz i dont know), maybe some quaifes still around as well, also PG and same same

I tired to get one from Quaifes a few weeks ago and they sent me an emial back saying that they have no more units for the f23 and they don't plan to carry any more anytime soon. I wish I would of known that a while ago because I would of gotten one back then.



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sorry to jack the thread but the getrag tranny code is f23... what is the code for the isuzu

swap out trannies for the f25

raven wrote:

Jrobz23 wrote:tnew getrag(f23) : GM's dif for the f25 might work, the idea has been tossed around (im not saying it will or wont cuz i dont know), maybe some quaifes still around as well, also PG and same same

I tired to get one from Quaifes a few weeks ago and they sent me an emial back saying that they have no more units for the f23 and they don't plan to carry any more anytime soon. I wish I would of known that a while ago because I would of gotten one back then.

that sucks man..

and yes these are for FWD cars.. the torsen dif came from SCX's

the codes are MK7 (2.2) and MJ1 (2.3 and 2.4) i think for the isuzus



Sven you totally quarterloafed your computer..

Well i have a team green LSD with some pretty stiff springs, i havent gotten it installed yet, building a new trans for it to go in, but from some of the post ive read, the PG is a good unit, but does have its fualts, its not going to be as good as a locker, or even a good clutch type diff.

I would love to get ahold of a Quaife LSD, but the GP they had recently was just to much for me to spend.


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The PhantomGrip isn't worth the money to me. I'm buying one of Team Green's LSD's from Brian aka;SpeedRacerZ
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Much better performance and value from their LSD in my opinion.

hey jonnyonwheels where can I get information on this LSD I clicked on the gms performance tab but not much came up.

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Bump old thread

I guess I better think about something since I'm swapping a Getrag into my new 2000 vert...

So there isn't a Phantom Grip piece for the 2000+ getrag? (Is that the F23? i don't know yet)

Crap.




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John Lenko wrote:
So there isn't a Phantom Grip piece for the 2000+ getrag? (Is that the F23? i don't know yet)

Crap.

PG's web site lists their unit to fit both the isuzu and getrag. I'm putting one of our LSD's in my Getrag before it goes back in my car. Check my sig.

..... and yes, the 00+ getrag is the F23.




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Daniel Ksiazkiewicz wrote:hey guys,

i am wanting to buy a lsd for my 96 j but i dont want to spend an arm and a leg. i was looking into the phantom grip from highrevmotorsports.com do you think this would be a waste of my money? remember, i am running the spec stage 3 clutch, and fidanza flywheel. please let me know what you guys think....thanks again..

i;d say its not a waste of money.

i had mine installed at 104,000 miles and am now at 127,000 miles. so 23,000 miles later, and it still works just as day one.

i;ve raced on it, gone through a winter, which was completely awesome, and daily driving is way more enjoyable, especially in the rain.

i might have paid more, but it was well worth it.

I am getting ready to have mine installed, its a Team Green unit and what do you use to hold the two halves pressed together while yo insert it into the diff??? All i got in the box was the 2 halves, and 4 springs and nothing else, I need to know how to install this thing?

HELP????





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Use a bench vise to compress it, then insert 4 bolts in the holes. We then used welding wire to 'Figure 8' in-between the bolts, to hold it together. You can try HD zip ties..... PG is supposed to supply 4 pins, and some aluminum clips, but ours never came with them. Once you get it in the Diff, cut the wire.

I was planning on making some clips for them, just never got around to it. So much to do, so little time to do it.




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My Phantom Grip, came with 4 dowel pins, and two little plates that slipped over the pins to hold the unit together.

My question, is how do you remove the LSD from the differential so you can change the springs? I would like to get stiffer springs from you, but have no idea how I am going to get it out of there. It is tight as hell.




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