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Carbon Fiber Dash and door insert updates
Thursday, January 10, 2008 3:02 PM
Well in September of last year I decided to pull the interior and wrap everything I had painted in carbon fiber and go a different route. Work at the bank became hectic and cold weather set in so I had honestly put the project on the back burner. Today I left work around one and spen the afternoon changing the look of the cav as well as working on the interior some.
Its still a long ways from done and I don't expect to be finished entirely until April but I thought I would give an update since many have seen me selling parts from the Cav all over as well as contemplating selling the cav.




Also, expect some changes from the Cav on the outside come spring. I think many will agree it was a pleasant one.



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Re: Carbon Fiber Dash and door insert updates
Thursday, January 10, 2008 3:16 PM
That freakin bezal is gonna look sweet when cleaned up.











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Re: Carbon Fiber Dash and door insert updates
Thursday, January 10, 2008 3:29 PM
Zach Hilton wrote:

Also, expect some changes from the Cav on the outside come spring. I think many will agree it was a pleasant one.


um... im scared about this, i love ur car 110% i dont see anything that could be changed, maybe a big honkin intercooler or something but idk i think im gonna start crying..





Re: Carbon Fiber Dash and door insert updates
Thursday, January 10, 2008 4:04 PM
Looks pretty good. There are some issues with smoothness, but I'm sure it's very hard to get CF right. I bet that it takes a lot of practice.
I think it's coming along nice, and if you keep on it, I'm sure it will look sweet when all finished.






Re: Carbon Fiber Dash and door insert updates
Thursday, January 10, 2008 5:40 PM
thats gonna look great when done. keep it up man!




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Re: Carbon Fiber Dash and door insert updates
Thursday, January 10, 2008 5:46 PM
gmanz24 wrote:
Zach Hilton wrote:

Also, expect some changes from the Cav on the outside come spring. I think many will agree it was a pleasant one.


um... im scared about this, i love ur car 110% i dont see anything that could be changed, maybe a big honkin intercooler or something but idk i think im gonna start crying..

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Re: Carbon Fiber Dash and door insert updates
Friday, January 11, 2008 7:48 AM
WHITECAVY wrote:That freakin bezel is gonna look sweet when cleaned up.


thats a big 10-4.



Re: Carbon Fiber Dash and door insert updates
Friday, January 11, 2008 9:05 AM
Looks pretty good. What resin did you use? it looks a little yellowish.

A good trick to do. Before you wrap your parts in c/f. paint your base black first.





Re: Carbon Fiber Dash and door insert updates
Friday, January 11, 2008 9:38 AM
big poppa wrote:Looks pretty good. What resin did you use? it looks a little yellowish.

A good trick to do. Before you wrap your parts in c/f. paint your base black first.


he speaks the truth. since the cf weave is so loose it shows the underlying color through it. painting the piece black first gives it the looks that most parts normally have.

i also agree with it seeming to have a slight yellow tint and am curious what resin you used as well. and did you wrap it by hand or did you vacuum bag it? i never attempted wrapping that piece by hand because it seems like it would be a real pain the get the cf to lay around all the curves smoothly without bagging it to keep it in place.



Re: Carbon Fiber Dash and door insert updates
Friday, January 11, 2008 9:54 AM
big poppa wrote:Looks pretty good. What resin did you use? it looks a little yellowish.

A good trick to do. Before you wrap your parts in c/f. paint your base black first.


I actually did paint the base black, but I got too hot with the sanding and it went through. But I can fix that pretty easy. I have a patch of c.f. I got matched up to go in its place.
As far as resin goes I believe it was the medium epoxy resin from uscomposites. I wrapped it in September and just started sanding on it yesterday lol.


sykeeok wrote:i also agree with it seeming to have a slight yellow tint and am curious what resin you used as well. and did you wrap it by hand or did you vacuum bag it? i never attempted wrapping that piece by hand because it seems like it would be a real pain the get the cf to lay around all the curves smoothly without bagging it to keep it in place.

I wrapped it by hand. I've never tried vaccuum bagging before.



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Re: Carbon Fiber Dash and door insert updates
Friday, January 11, 2008 10:20 AM
Check out the Kleer Koat Table Top Epoxy resin from uscomposites.



It's crystal clear and very easy to work with. This does not turn yellow. It's a 1:1 ratio mix.

Paint your surface black, then slightly scuff it up and use spray adhesive to lay your carbon fiber down. Generally I do 3-4 good coats of epoxy over the carbon. This way, when you sand the epoxy smooth you don't go into the carbon itself. If your sanding and you see black/grey dust showing instead of white dust, you know you've sanded too deep.

Hope that helps some. Keep it up.






Re: Carbon Fiber Dash and door insert updates
Friday, January 11, 2008 11:13 AM
big poppa wrote:Check out the Kleer Koat Table Top Epoxy resin from uscomposites.


It's crystal clear and very easy to work with. This does not turn yellow.

actually it WILL yellow if left to its own devices (or accelerated by the sun). but that is generally over the course of a year or more. if this happens you cant simply buff it out either. to prevent this you will need to spray an auto clear with UV protection over the piece. otherwise if you dont you will have to sand your piece down and re-resin it once it does yellow (and trust me....it will)

other than that (and the long dry time) the KK epoxy is the best choice. what you used will be ok too because it dries 95% clear. it has just the tiniest hint of yellow to it. it just happens to be more noticeable in that one piece because of the angle.





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Re: Carbon Fiber Dash and door insert updates
Friday, January 11, 2008 11:34 AM
Big Poppa, thanks. That is actually what I use on all my peices on my second/third coats. I wasn't aware it was good to use for the first coat as well, so I have always used the epoxy resin.
This will be cleared in Dupont Chroma Premier clear. Its what I have always used on other carbon fiber peices I have done.
Thanks for the tips though guys.

And thanks for the positive comments as well everyone.



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Re: Carbon Fiber Dash and door insert updates
Friday, January 11, 2008 12:45 PM
Looks good for a hand lay-up. Still looks like you have alot of sanding to do. I am going to be doing some bezels when I get some more materials. Looks good so far, keep it up.


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Re: Carbon Fiber Dash and door insert updates
Friday, January 11, 2008 3:04 PM
oh yeah, for sure! Forgot to mention you do need to spray an auto clear with UV protection over the piece.





Re: Carbon Fiber Dash and door insert updates
Saturday, January 12, 2008 9:22 AM
Looks really good Zach, sure it will look even better once you get it done.



Re: Carbon Fiber Dash and door insert updates
Sunday, January 13, 2008 12:10 PM
cool man. sounds like i'm the only one on here that's used the poly resin. i'm gonna have to give the epoxy a shot. i've noticed that the poly stays tacky and gets things stuck in/on it even after using the measuring cups to mix it to the exact proportions specified by uscomposites.
can't wait to see it all sanding and cleared. looks really well done for hand laying.



Re: Carbon Fiber Dash and door insert updates
Sunday, January 13, 2008 2:42 PM
sykeeok wrote: i've noticed that the poly stays tacky and gets things stuck in/on it even after using the measuring cups to mix it to the exact proportions specified by uscomposites.

that also might be due to weather conditions, humidity and the like. doesnt sound like its curing right. did you do this in the summer or fall/winter time? also, are you close to water?




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Re: Carbon Fiber Dash and door insert updates
Sunday, January 13, 2008 3:29 PM
(tabs) wrote:
sykeeok wrote: i've noticed that the poly stays tacky and gets things stuck in/on it even after using the measuring cups to mix it to the exact proportions specified by uscomposites.

that also might be due to weather conditions, humidity and the like. doesnt sound like its curing right. did you do this in the summer or fall/winter time? also, are you close to water?


i'm not close to the water, but was doing it in the summer and it's normally pretty humid here in the summer. i honestly never thought about that since i've never really had that problem with fiberglass and i figured the resins would have pretty similar properties both being poly based. i also tend to use a generous amount of hardener with my fiberglass though.



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