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HO cam "cam relief"
Monday, October 26, 2009 6:17 PM









i might be the first to try this, so..................we'll see what happens. they are close, so i might trim the tower somemore. i'm not sure when i'll install these HO's. but i'll gitrdone.




Re: HO cam "cam relief"
Monday, October 26, 2009 6:22 PM
you're not the first but yes... exactly what needs done.

good job.



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Re: HO cam "cam relief"
Monday, October 26, 2009 6:25 PM
z yaaaa wrote:you're not the first but yes... exactly what needs done.

good job.


thanks man.

so someone has done it and it works......? i think it will work 100%



Re: HO cam "cam relief"
Monday, October 26, 2009 6:30 PM
Oh very nice!



Re: HO cam "cam relief"
Monday, October 26, 2009 6:45 PM
You still have to do it with the 35mm bores in the stock tower.

I would try and make it so it has the same clearance as the stock cam. Just a thought...





Re: HO cam "cam relief"
Monday, October 26, 2009 6:52 PM
jmarks82 wrote:You still have to do it with the 35mm bores in the stock tower.


why? i think the 33's will work just as well.



Re: HO cam "cam relief"
Monday, October 26, 2009 7:44 PM
as far as i can remember if hes keeping 2.4 valve springs he can keep the 33s otherwise he might have issues but don't quote me on that becuase its a 2.4 and BOOOOOO to them



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Re: HO cam "cam relief"
Monday, October 26, 2009 8:32 PM
Its been said if you use the 2.4 valve springs with HO cams or W41 cams not to rev that high due to the pressure limit on the stock valve springs. And remember these cams like the upperband.

GMR has got nothing on this
Re: HO cam "cam relief"
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 4:09 AM
i was told the 33's fit fine over the 2.3 springs.

whats the difference between stock springs and LO's and HO's?



Re: HO cam "cam relief"
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:03 AM
maxZ24 wrote:
jmarks82 wrote:You still have to do it with the 35mm bores in the stock tower.


why? i think the 33's will work just as well.


I was saying that you still have to do the clearancing EVEN if you had 35mm bores. Like i said before, i would make sure there is the same clearance as the stock cams between the cam and lifter bore. I think this could work, just kinda limits your choices on springs. The turbo car had HO springs and 33mm lifters when we had the LO intake cam. So that situation is possible.





Re: HO cam "cam relief"
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:10 AM
Hmm I'd be scared of that.










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Re: HO cam "cam relief"
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:57 AM
I have the same setup, and yes everything seems to be working, so go ahead, you are doing similiar to the new build I have going, 33mm, and ho springs and retainers will work, and right idea for cam towers, make sure they clear nicely and rotate no problem but your doing just nicely


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Re: HO cam "cam relief"
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:34 AM
Keep the pics coming man.

AJ B, do you have any pics or anything?? How long has this setup been working for you?



Re: HO cam "cam relief"
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:20 AM
metal heats up and expands, like said before try to keep the clearances the same just in case.








Re: HO cam "cam relief"
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:39 AM
Bpow wrote:Keep the pics coming man.

AJ B, do you have any pics or anything?? How long has this setup been working for you?


he's in the process of building it now.



Re: HO cam "cam relief"
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:43 PM
gmanz24 (The Bash Whore) wrote:metal heats up and expands, like said before try to keep the clearances the same just in case.


totally agree, but you all know that when putting the secret cams in it loses a lil clearence. so as long as it has the same clearence as the secret cams we are fine. but it still has a lot of clearence with the puny secret cams, i think it could handle just a hair less clearence than the secret cams. we will all find out soon if this works from either me or AJ B.







Re: HO cam "cam relief"
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 8:38 PM
clearance with secret cams? huh?

you do not need to clearance jack @!#$ for them.



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Re: HO cam "cam relief"
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:58 PM
z yaaaa wrote:clearance with secret cams? huh?

you do not need to clearance jack @!#$ for them.



he was saying secret cams are bigger than stock hence clearances are tighter.






Re: HO cam "cam relief"
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 5:31 AM
I have head done, springs, retainers, 2.4 keepers, towers been working on lately, DO NOT go too far down though I think I measured the MAX you want to go is 2-4mm due to the lifter size, I was having the shop explain, I am also looking in to this one bit of info about modding cam more but from school and work Im very hesitant.


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Re: HO cam "cam relief"
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:45 AM
Why are you hesitant?





Re: HO cam "cam relief"
Sunday, November 01, 2009 10:06 AM
AJ B wrote:I have head done, springs, retainers, 2.4 keepers, towers been working on lately, DO NOT go too far down though I think I measured the MAX you want to go is 2-4mm due to the lifter size, I was having the shop explain,.


What did you measure when you said 2-4mm? The reliefs that the OP cut in his towers? Is that measuring deep, or across?











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Re: HO cam "cam relief"
Monday, November 02, 2009 5:35 PM
Nice work Max.
You could've just used the towers the cams came out of and you'd have been fine.
More pics and progress on this.

Any news on the tranny yet? Still running with slippage?



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Re: HO cam "cam relief"
Monday, November 02, 2009 7:03 PM
thanks James.

i know i could use the towers the cams came with, but the only cam i got from barrys was the intake HO, the exhaust was already gone. so i bought a brand new exhaust HO cam. and i want to use our power steering setup and the 33mm lifters. this weekend if my buddy gets my timing housing and towers powder coated, i'll swing by and let you check out what i got goin on. i have a new number so you might not recognize it if i call you.

and yes its still slippin. just gettin worse because i drive my car full throttle every day. im gonna drive it til it wont move, why not? i know people, and im one of them....hehehe







Re: HO cam "cam relief"
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 8:39 PM
ok I was meaning how deep you have to mod the tower, the reasoning for modding the tower was because 4 lobes hit the edges of the cam towers, easily resolved by cutting, you only need to do this 2-4mm deep and I can measure for the across part, but I have all setup, just need to order clutch for it, and hopefully GM hurries with the hex insert, I have lifters with ho springs, if you take a look at clearance, the ho cams will run just fine, there is very little worry with the 33mm lifters, and the HO cams, Im waiting for the new crank also, the @!#$s taking to long lol, but when doing this swap you will need brown-top(or equal) and better injectors or will lean out after 3,000 rpm, now depending what he is doing with valve size will determine more with clearance, with 33mm lifters I would not go oversized valves on them but then again its your choice


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Re: HO cam "cam relief"
Wednesday, November 04, 2009 5:09 AM
AJ B wrote:ok I was meaning how deep you have to mod the tower, the reasoning for modding the tower was because 4 lobes hit the edges of the cam towers, easily resolved by cutting, you only need to do this 2-4mm deep and I can measure for the across part, but I have all setup, just need to order clutch for it, and hopefully GM hurries with the hex insert, I have lifters with ho springs, if you take a look at clearance, the ho cams will run just fine, there is very little worry with the 33mm lifters, and the HO cams, Im waiting for the new crank also, the @!#$s taking to long lol, but when doing this swap you will need brown-top(or equal) and better injectors or will lean out after 3,000 rpm, now depending what he is doing with valve size will determine more with clearance, with 33mm lifters I would not go oversized valves on them but then again its your choice


You can use stock injectors, i am doing it. You just have to get the car tuned...





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