I just got a 1996 chevy cavalier 2 door 2.2L. im looking for some sort of CAI/header/midpipe/catback combo.
If anyone can help id really appreciate it also pics or sound files if ya got em. thanks
AEM CAI 258 free shipping coximports, header go with rk sport ceramic coated or pace setter ceramic coated, catback get a magnaflow muffler 24' resonator and get the pipe from the muffler shop. i dont know of any combos, you may want to email some of the shops from the org like jason @ a plus or email gravana they will help you out alot. good luck.
theres no need to buy an aem intake. intakes are all the same. ebay one will work fine
yea thats what i figured.. ive priced out a bunch of intakes and it seems that the vibrant one is pretty cheap financially but still does the job pretty well.. have u ever been to this site..im thinking of ordering parts from it..if u have any other helpful links thatd be sweet.
http://www.spiderautomotive.com/cavalier.html
i never heard of that site. order from Carcustoms or GravanaTuning.
all intakes are the same. just pick one
ceramic coated header is best.
and get a exhaust shop to bend you some pipe, pick a muffler of your choice. and add a resonator in there too. like maybe 24 inches
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Dan if you live in California you do not want to buy an ebay intake. Also if you fill out your registry it will make it easier down the road for ppl to answer your questions.
Intakes are all the same depending on the pipe size, go with ebay. As far as places to order from
A plus performance has a wide selection and impeccable customer service, also check out the group purchase forum from time to time you might snag a bargain. Good Luck
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Madjack wrote:Like I said before, building an engine like ours (2.2 or 2200) is a painstaking chore , since there is so few custom made parts. It's frustrating to me too, but that's what I like about doing this engine, it's the challenge.
anyone have any stickers i can get for my cavie ?
as far as those ebay intakes u were talking about..i checked them out, they are pretty cheap but it beats spending all that loot on an AEM one..im thinkin about going with the Pacesetter header and MOnza cat back exhaust..will i also need a midpipe or should it just connect.. thanks for the help
Daniel Eisenstein
If I were you I would go to an exhaust shop spend hundreds less and get a full system, instead of a catback.
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Madjack wrote:Like I said before, building an engine like ours (2.2 or 2200) is a painstaking chore , since there is so few custom made parts. It's frustrating to me too, but that's what I like about doing this engine, it's the challenge.
Alright you are going to piss me off again!
jesus, LOL, ok damnit, and AEM is NOT like a ebay intake man, the AEM will run into your fender well and intake cold air, which holds more oxygen which will increase your horse power. Go to AEM web site and read it man.
LOL
that whole COld Air intake thing is just a marketing gimmick. in theroy it might work. but when it comes down to it. its not really sucking cold air in. as some of us know, when its 90 degrees out the pavement which we drive on gets hot. hotter than the air itself. and hot air raises up. and with the "Cold Air" intake being so close to the ground, its going to be sucking in that hotter air. and i know what some are thinking "Well when i stick my hand outside my window when im driving it feels colder." well of course it does. your hand has a natural moisture to it
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^^what you said makes no sense--of course the air coming into a CAI would be cooler than air under the hood.
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when it comes to WAI, i would say ebay will work, when the term "Cold Air" is used it doesnt mean the air isnt 90 degrees, it means its cooler than the air under your hood which is better than the hot ass air under the hood with fumes and stuff in it, stuff that pushes the oxygen out of the way. If its 100 gegrees outside and the wind blows its not as hot, same applys when your car is moving. On top of that, its pulling air from the fender well whitch is out of the engine bay. So dont go telling newbs stuff you havent researched and spent countless hours reading everything on this site and other sites.
<a href="http://www.aempower.com/pdf/dyno/21-447%20Chevrolet%20Cavalier%202.2L%2098-02%20CAS.pdf">AEM DYNO for 2200</a>
Read this on too
http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=2&i=298198&t=298177#298198
yea just to get that extra 2 hp and spend and extra 200 bucks. get an ebay intake
If you don tplan on doing anything to your engine but an intake go with the ebay intake, but if you actually want speed out of your car you gotta spend money. Add a ported throttle body, ported intake manifold, header and full exaust; you will see larger gains with the aem. But yes i agree with you if money is an issue then go cheap, just dont bitch if it doesnt fit right or it rattles all in your engine bay because it doesnt bolt to something..
i think most people would agree with me on what i said. and despite what you may think, air under the hood does move around
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I agree with that, just saying with other mods i would go with the cold air. If you just want an intake go cheap. speed cost money
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i was refering to that Nate F guy up there
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ite, muchos gracias for the heated debate on CAI.. as far as exhaust is concerned..if im getting a header set
jbody2nr- wen u said just go to an exhaust shop and get a full exhaust..if im buying the parts online..wat would i need, header, catback exhaust and a midpipe? or would i just get the header, straight pipe, muffler..gimme the detail
also, are those pacesetter header set any good..also ...wats the deal with short throw..any feedback on the B&M one?
Daniel Eisenstein
for full exaust, your going to need a muffler, a resonator, a highflow cat, and a header. The muffler shop will bend all the pipe for you. dont need the resonator unless you wanna sound like a 1.6liter ricer engine farting. The short throw shifter will allow you to get through your gears easier and quicker, lowers the shift knob about an inch and there isnt as much travel in the stick.
you talking about a short shifter or the shift plus?
level1- im talking bout a short shifter..the B&M one runs about a buck25 i think...i think ill do w/o the ricing of the car, not my style..good looks on the help, if u kno any specific parts that u recommend or kno ppl that have good responses to the product, let me know..
Daniel Eisenstein
Nate F wrote:^^what you said makes no sense--of course the air coming into a CAI would be cooler than air under the hood.
Why? please explain it to me.
clever One wrote:when it comes to WAI, i would say ebay will work, when the term "Cold Air" is used it doesnt mean the air isnt 90 degrees, it means its cooler than the air under your hood which is better than the hot ass air under the hood with fumes and stuff in it, stuff that pushes the oxygen out of the way. If its 100 gegrees outside and the wind blows its not as hot, same applys when your car is moving. On top of that, its pulling air from the fender well whitch is out of the engine bay. So dont go telling newbs stuff you havent researched and spent countless hours reading everything on this site and other sites.
you may find this informative also
FAQ wrote:Intakes I�ve had quite a few, which are normally called WAI;s and CAI�s (warm air and cold air) but the real names for them are long ram intake aka CAI and short ram intake WAI.
Short rams are usually more abundant, and from proof they run pretty much similar to long rams. A bit more quicker throttle response can be seen due to a shorter path and less bends to travel through.
Long rams are a bit more rare and are usually mounted down in the fender. Also another note, there are people always referring to �true CAI�s��don�t know where the term came from, but the only difference between a TRUE CAI and a CAI conversion from a WAI, if the fact that parts came with the alleged �TRUE CAI� all in one package. The filters are all mounted in the same exact area, and the pipes travel the same path. Sometimes they charge you more for the name TRUE CAI depending on where you go. J
Now, The reason I am leaving them to long or short rather than Warm or Cold, is that from measuring with a temp sender and gauge. There was a difference between the two of 4 degrees. Also another bit of note, it wa ian lacey or matt teske, one of the two dynoed a WAI at 9 hp, aem just dynoed one of their CAI�s at 8.6 hp. So does that mean WAI;s are better? No. they have just as many downsides as a CAI. Some people think the heat is extremely bad under the car, which is a myth, cause when the car is in motion air circulates under the hood. So basically you get the same air temp as a CAI.
With a CAI, the filter is mounted low, and in the summer time or sunny days we all know heat absorbs into the ground, and then�heat rises. The lower you have the filter, its still gonna take in warmer air. And also, COLD AIR, is normally what you read. However, use a bit of logic. The air is cold in the winter time, but in the summer, its hot outside. The air your intake takes in is only relative to the air temp outside. Sure dynos say this and that, but you also have to realize, they are in usually controlled environments, and also what a car gains on one car, can differ with the same part on another car. Meaning, I can dyno an intake on my car and gain 8 hp, take it off and give it to you and you may gain 10hp. Hell dynoeing a car outside and inside can make a differnce. The cooler it is the better the car runs.
There are plenty of companies to buy from. A lot of people swear by this and that, and that�s personal choice. Doesn�t exactly mean something is better, and there DEFINITELY isn�t a BEST. If any one claims that theirs is the best simply ask have you tried all the other intakes available? 9 times out of 10, prob not. I stopped after the rksport CAI, mantapart CAI, rsm WAI, mantapart WAI, and about 5 other self made intakes� there really wasn�t much difference in temp nor performance. Yea I wasted money, but I wanted to see what was all the hype. Back then intakes were around 200$ now they bump into the 300$ range. Some can justify it, I can�t. it�s a metal pipe with a filter on the end. Keep in mind every company out there has made a public printed claim that there intake is the best, or gives the most gains
AEM makes this claim: Outperform every comparable intake system on the market
http://aempower.com/product_intake.asp
other companys have made their claims, and while I will publicly say I don�t doubt ANY of them, one persons intake will always produce better results than another. On different cars results will vary. Don�t fall into the ordeal where company X said 10HP, but company Z make 7HP. It is quite and DEF possible, that Z may actually produce more on your car than X does.
For those that will want to make their own, save money and get pretty much the same performance. These sites will help.
http://www.airflowonline.com
http://www.ny-jbodies.org/forum/library/2200/intake.htm
http://members.aol.com/htown2200/intake.html
most of these are for a 2200 2.2 which can be done on a 95-97 2.2 as well, but if you have a 2.4, or 2.3 or ecotec, its really the same process, you just need to substitute different parts. Use the imagination. It�s a really easy job to do.
For those that will want to buy and intake, there are a few JBO locals and companies to check out.
Don�t get mad Chris, putting your registry/name out there.
http://www.j-body.org/members/agentomega/ he has produced some for the 2200. email him for other cars. They are of decent quality and a reasonably low price. Same as ToBoyz intakes.
And a few companies:
http://www.rsmracing.com
http://www.mantapart.com
http://induction-dynamics.com/
http://rksport.com/
http://carcustoms.net/store/
http://highrevmotorsports.com/catalog/default.php
http://www.howellautomotive.com
http://www.cavalierconnection.com
and even
http://www.ebay.com
those are some sites to get you started. If at worse, check google or WebCrawler, you will find more side shops that have them.
