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Can the VSS output be adj with HPT (not a speed limiter question)
Friday, February 16, 2007 12:24 PM
The tire size on my Cav is a 215/40r17 which throws the speedo off approx 2.5%

Is there a table that can be changed to accomodate the smaller tire (going for the most cost efficient measure since the tires are fairly new)? I have to have someone that has HPT change it for me, so the more info that I have, the better.



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Re: Can the VSS output be adj with HPT (not a speed limiter question)
Friday, February 16, 2007 12:25 PM
You can change the VSS pulses per mile, if you adjust it right, you can correct your speedometer.





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Re: Can the VSS output be adj with HPT (not a speed limiter question)
Friday, February 16, 2007 12:40 PM
id just get the correct size tires and save your wheels , lol







Re: Can the VSS output be adj with HPT (not a speed limiter question)
Friday, February 16, 2007 1:23 PM
[quote=97trd(???™)]id just get the correct size tires and save your wheels , lol

well truly any tire size you get is not exact to the factory set-up, they are close, but not exact. You can adjust it to read correctly which I think is a nice feature.



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Re: Can the VSS output be adj with HPT (not a speed limiter question)
Friday, February 16, 2007 5:25 PM
[quote=97trd(???™)]id just get the correct size tires and save your wheels , lol

Beauty of it is I don't have potholes out where I live, so no worries about bent rims









Re: Can the VSS output be adj with HPT (not a speed limiter question)
Saturday, February 17, 2007 10:28 AM
yeah darkstars and i were talking about this the other day. sounds like we need some math people to chime in here.



Re: Can the VSS output be adj with HPT (not a speed limiter question)
Saturday, February 17, 2007 11:57 PM
Not hard. You divide the diameter of the new tires by the old. This will give the ratio of linear translation per 360° rotation of the wheel (ratio of circumference or distance traveled to the layman). You multiply this value by whatever the current value the VSS is.

It's actually:

[(pi*D1)/(pi*D2)]*VSS value.......but the pi's cancel out.


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Re: Can the VSS output be adj with HPT (not a speed limiter question)
Sunday, February 18, 2007 12:12 AM
Ok... so if I read that right, the stock 195/70 r14 diameter being 24.7 and the 215/40r17 being 23.8 gives a value of 1.0378 (not sure how far to take it out decimal wise).

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

Taking that # and multiplying it by the VSS value should calibrate the speedo or would that be the other way around using the following:

0.9636 (17in wheel/14in wheel)









Re: Can the VSS output be adj with HPT (not a speed limiter question)
Sunday, February 18, 2007 12:52 AM
It should be the smaller one, the new diameter is smaller, therefore the circumference will be shorter and the pulses will come more frequently.
Re: Can the VSS output be adj with HPT (not a speed limiter question)
Sunday, February 18, 2007 9:58 AM
Diameter of the new wheel divided by the original. So the second one...

Kardain wrote:Ok... so if I read that right, the stock 195/70 r14 diameter being 24.7 and the 215/40r17 being 23.8 gives a value of 1.0378 (not sure how far to take it out decimal wise).

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

Taking that # and multiplying it by the VSS value should calibrate the speedo or would that be the other way around using the following:

0.9636 (17in wheel/14in wheel)



Or if you wanted to make it look like you are going 200 mph on the highway (traveling at the 65mph with your new tires), you could multiply by 2.9649



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Re: Can the VSS output be adj with HPT (not a speed limiter question)
Friday, September 14, 2007 10:18 PM
back from the dead, I tried that it didn't work too well (read faster). So, after doing some thinking, I came up with this: Starting size / end size = ratio. VSS PPM gets multiplied by that ratio and it should read dead on, in this case multiplied by 1.0378. this was after reading some of the posts above and looking at the values on the VSS output and somehow blatently missing this post:
http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showpost.php?s=55c83dd017ac6a567c87181e3a4e1666&p=64433&postcount=4

Quote:

If anyone else has this problem or in the future has this problem the answer to it is the following

PPM x Old diameter/New diameter= new PPM

Example:

24212 PPM x (25"/23")= 26392 PPM


with multiplying it by the .9636 value, it actually makes the car think that there's a bigger tire (less tire rotations per that 1 mile).

Yay I accurately know how fast I'm going now










Re: Can the VSS output be adj with HPT (not a speed limiter question)
Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:06 AM
lol...sorry Kardain. Looking at it now, it makes perfect sense. Don't know what I was thinking..lol


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Re: Can the VSS output be adj with HPT (not a speed limiter question)
Saturday, September 15, 2007 7:53 PM
Its all good. Now I just have to remember that its been fixed so I don't get popped with a ticket









Re: Can the VSS output be adj with HPT (not a speed limiter question)
Saturday, September 15, 2007 8:02 PM
yea a -4mph speedo screwed me once. damn ticket.

rodimus prime is gonan correct my speedo when i get new wheels..hopefully he can do that math



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Re: Can the VSS output be adj with HPT (not a speed limiter question)
Wednesday, September 19, 2007 9:16 PM
Ok, now that I've had a couple days to drive around, one unforeseen side-effect: Trac Off light come on intermittently....









Re: Can the VSS output be adj with HPT (not a speed limiter question)
Thursday, September 20, 2007 12:36 PM
Kardain -

Remember that the 5spd cars didnt come with trac control. That was something that stayed on the 4spd auto's only. Since you're running 5spd with this setup, I'd look through and see if you can't just disable the TC forever. Should fix the problem.





Re: Can the VSS output be adj with HPT (not a speed limiter question)
Thursday, September 20, 2007 1:52 PM
Its for my Cav, which is an auto









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