I'm just curious to know how much the CF hoods from VIS weigh. I was just on their site and they don't have the weight of their hoods listed. I am kinda thinking about trying to make the car lighter and wasn't sure if this would be a good place to start. I see they have the evo, Invader and OEM, they are probably weight close to one another but I haven't decided which one looks the best. If anyone can help me out I'd appreciate it. I'm trying to get my power to weight better cause my best friend is doing a Civic hatch turbo and his car weights next to nothing and I want to be able to beat him next year at the track
1st off. with the 2 hoods i have installed. BOTH had some less weight to them from the stocker. i'd say 10-15 lbs. at the most!
2nd. seeing how your supercharged. the evo or invader might help u in another way than just weight! it'll help get some heat off that blower! (just a thought)
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My VIS oem carbon fiber hood I had back in the day weighed about 15 pounds less than my stocker with the latch on it....hope that can help ya
cf hoods are light enough to lift with mabe two fingers. oem hoods take strength with even two hands lol
yea 10-15 lbs atleast. good luck beating the civic hatch turbo you probably have an extra 1000lbs on him easily.
Alex Currington wrote:yea 10-15 lbs atleast. good luck beating the civic hatch turbo you probably have an extra 1000lbs on him easily.
I think his is around 2400lbs...if I'm not mistaken the cavalier is around 2700lbs (I have to get to a truck scale soon). I need around 270whp to keep up with his 230whp for power-weight. It will be a good race cause that is my lower end of what I am shooting for next summer. I'm kinda building my setup so when we race at the track we will be fairly even. My buddy just showed up for the weekend and he just got an SRT-4...we did a couple pulls...I can keep up in first and second from a 20km/hr rolling start but his starts pulling away in third. I'm gonna have figure out photoshop so I can decide if the CF will look ok on my car.
oh I guess it wasnt as bad as I thought. you would think it would be alot more since the civic hatches are like bike helmets on wheels. A carbon fiber hood would look sexy for sure
i think when i weighed my cf hood vs stock it was about 20 lbs.
are you gettin close to 270 whp on the m45? if not, how do you plan on gettin 270 whp on a m45? may need to look at gettin the m62 and aftermarket manifold for the ld9.
if you are ditchin weight, get rid of your lip kit too.
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s1lver_N1p wrote:i think when i weighed my cf hood vs stock it was about 20 lbs.
are you gettin close to 270 whp on the m45? if not, how do you plan on gettin 270 whp on a m45? may need to look at gettin the m62 and aftermarket manifold for the ld9.
if you are ditchin weight, get rid of your lip kit too.
20lbs is a decent amount...I'm starting to like the looks of CF so I may get it regardless of the weight saving. As for the lip, I love them and think its the best thing I did to the car for looks and I think thats weight gone to good use. As for the power, I'm going turbo this winter. I'm going be going for 300whp (I'll adjust the boost to put me there). Not sure what turbo I'm gonna run at this point but planning for something to get me my goal with under 15psi.
If your doing a CF hood to save weight you can, save some cash and just install a large hood scoop, the weight verses cost is not worth it, a scoop will drop the weight off by around 3-4lbs verse the 15-10 lbs from the CF hood and the extra air flowing in would lower engine temps like the were talking about. I would take that $400-$500 dollars you would of spent and invest in either a A/C Delete or a battery relocation kit with a light weight dry cell battery. Removing the A/C can save almost 50-60lbs and the battery kit will put the extra weight in the center of your car or trunk, and dry cells run about 5-20lbs lighter then a water/acid filled battery. Also if you want to shave off some more weight then you can take out your seats before heading out to the track and put them back in later, I do it all the time on my Sunfire. The passager seat is just 4 bolts, and the back seat pops out and the rear back rest slides out if you put it at about a 45 degree angle and slide it over to one side, the other side comes out the same. Together with the seats out and the A/C gone, with a hood scoop, battery kit, you saved about 100lbs!!! I got some more idea's for saving weight if you need them. Hit me up.
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Lol@hoodscoopsavingweight
Right you would think that 3-4 lbs isn't much for $20 or would you rather spend $700-$1,200 for 15-20lbs of weight if you do then I can sell you one, I got the hook up on everything.
But its a cost to weight savings of
Scoop
$6 per lb
VS
CF Hood
$53 per lb to $60 per lb
So can you think of the power you can make for price of $60 per lb.
I'm not stopping you from buying CF if you want some pics of them hit me up with your year.
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Ok, how you do figure adding parts to the car will decrease the weight?
Somer weight has a thing called benifits....
Like a ignition system, turbo, headers. I was refferring to the diffrence that the money you spend on a CF hood could be used to purchase bolt-ons, in reguards to the power made by reducing the weight from stock to CF
Make sense now?
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I don't understand that sentence at all. English, use it.
I meant how do you figure adding hood scoops will reduce the weight of the hood?
You should use the Lund stick on hood scoops they make the hood 50 pounds lighter.
The weight of plasticor carbon fiber is lighter then the steel/alumin. used to make the hood if you wanted to shave some weight off THAT area then this is just one way of doing it, and saves some cash for other things, plus a ram air hood is nice like mine!!!! I was trying to argue the weight verse cost issue.
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This one works (realllly does
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I have to confess to all my fans out there, I'm not a pro at posting pictures yet, yes yes I know you had no clue right?
I think I got it down now and I'll post some more updated pics later
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Thats what I figured it would look like.
Doing that the right way along with having the hood repainted would cost more and be more work and time consuming than just buying a CF hood.
Not to mention that a CF hood would look good where that just looks rediculous.
I now see the CF hood is not much of a weight saver. I guess if I did it now, it would be for asthetics than anything. I do have an a/c delete and I take out my stereo and my back seats when I go to the track. I think since I'm debating on getting rid of the car next summer I don't think I'll be doing much more than the motor/turbo build this winter. Thanks for the help though.
Wow, what a thread.
I can tell you that when I replaced my factory hood with my c/f hood, there was a tremendous difference in the weight.
I never weighed the two but to remove the factory hood, I had to have help in removing it.
On installing the c/f hood, it was cake and took less than 30 minutes to do so.
On weight savings, it's the overall weight that counts when it comes to power to weight ratio.
Along with the hood, trunk, a/c delete, and rear seat delete, the biggest weight savings is in the factory carpet.
Going from the factory carpet to the ACC carpet probably lost me another 40 pounds by itself.
Factory carpet weighs about 50 to 60 pounds or more and was a handful to remove out of the car.
Acc carpet was so much lighter too and a win for weight savings.
I'm a proponent for weight savings and a carbon fiber hood is one of the ways to go.
All of the weight savings will also give you better gas mileage, less wear on the tires, and be less stain on the engine if driven in the normal manner.
Weight savings ftw.
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Thank you Dave and JBO! 
Interior and A/C is for wussies..lol
one way of getting the weight down is to remove the carpet in the car cause with the underlay that it has atached to it it weighs a fair amount.
^^^^ only for 95-99 cars. the 00-05 carpet does not have the rubber crap attached to the underside.
i noticed one hell of a difference from my stock hood to even my fiberglass/cf oem style 'vis' hood. i noticed an even better difference between stock and my FULL cf VIS hood.
same goes for the trunk lids.
might not be very much but like james said, every little bit adds up to be a lot.
I must confess... I feel like a monster!
z yaaaa wrote:^^^^ only for 95-99 cars. the 00-05 carpet does not have the rubber crap attached to the underside. .
How much does this rubber %@!+ weigh approximately for the 95-99's? Would it be easy to just remove it from my carpet? I really wanna drop some weight
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