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Wanted to make sure I'm doing this right.
Monday, January 16, 2012 7:25 PM
This is the first time for me to do an engine rebuild since I was half-a** taught in tech college in 2003. I'm trying to hone out my cylinders in my 2200 ln2 engine with a 3 finger honing tool I rented from Oreilly's. I'm not sure how long I run my drill but I ran it for about a minute and a half and I could still see the squiggly marks from where my lower oil control piston ring had left a.... well I don't know why but there is some sort of a mark from the lower ring in the cylinder like it got hot or something. I also can see some straight scratches going up the cylinder. I just didn't want to run the drill for too long, but wasn't really sure how long was too long either. I also have Moly rings that are going back in new and was told to use a fine grit stone or the Moly will come out of the rings. How do I know what grit stone I have and if it is too coarse? Also a random question, what is the clearance between the main bearings and the rod bearings?











Re: Wanted to make sure I'm doing this right.
Monday, January 16, 2012 7:51 PM
Chances are, running it that long you have successfully bored the cylinder, not just honed it. I have a 3 finger hone that I have used for all the motors I have built.

I have never ran it for more than 10-15 seconds per cylinder. The job of the tool is to basically deglaze the cylinder walls go the new rings have a surface to bite into to seat.

I hope you had the hone and cylinder wall coated with oil or STP to lubricate everything. Chances are, judging by the scratches on the walls, you did it dry.


I am going to assume at this point now your best bet is to take it to a machine shop where they can properly measure the cylinder bore to determine if it now needs to be bored out further and larger pistoI'm ran.

Im all for doing things myself and encourage people to do the same most cases. You should have asked about the use of that tool prior to using it.


"Oil Leak ? What oil Leak ? Oh, Thats Just The Sweat From All The HorsePower!!"

Re: Wanted to make sure I'm doing this right.
Monday, January 16, 2012 7:58 PM
Well it may not have been that long but is was close to a minuite I did coat the walls and the tool with atf and did not do the cut dry. So if its ok I shouldnt have to worry about those extra marks as long as the glaze is gone?



Re: Wanted to make sure I'm doing this right.
Monday, January 16, 2012 8:06 PM
Either way, it was too long. If you have access to a bore gauge make sure the diameter is within tollerence.

If not, it will need to be bored larger and need to use larger pistons.


"Oil Leak ? What oil Leak ? Oh, Thats Just The Sweat From All The HorsePower!!"

Re: Wanted to make sure I'm doing this right.
Monday, January 16, 2012 8:10 PM
Ok I think I know someone with a bore gauge I will check to see the difference. I did put the head of the piston in the cylinder to see the gap between and I can visibly see any difference in the gaps from the other three cylinders. I feel like an idiot lol.



Re: Wanted to make sure I'm doing this right.
Tuesday, January 17, 2012 4:29 PM
I "can't" see any visible gap*



Re: Wanted to make sure I'm doing this right.
Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:28 AM
i see no cross hatching, just straight lines. this is why you have someone experienced with you when you build your engine if you aren't.



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Re: Wanted to make sure I'm doing this right.
Wednesday, January 18, 2012 6:11 PM
yea agree , you need crosshatching , Plunge the hone in and out of the cylinder as it spins
Re: Wanted to make sure I'm doing this right.
Saturday, January 21, 2012 5:09 PM
I was plunging it in and out. I talked to some more people and I was doing this right. I also know I don't need to get over sized pistons after measurements. The machine shop I spoke with said its going to take a whole lot of honing before its too much. So apparently it is ok to run the hone longer than 15 seconds.



Re: Wanted to make sure I'm doing this right.
Monday, January 23, 2012 5:34 AM
well the poeple you were talking to must not know what they are talkng about because u need cross hatching. the angles should be as close to 45 as you can get. move the hone quite quickly in the cylinder

should look like this

Re: Wanted to make sure I'm doing this right.
Monday, January 23, 2012 6:03 AM
It doesn't take much to over hone a cylinder. I had a machine shop do it to one of my 4G63 engines for my Talon. There were .005" over and you could hear the pistons slap in the cylinder.

Using a 3 finger hone I've personally never been able to get proper cross hatching and have never had an issue. I find the ball honest to be best for proper cross hatching.


"Oil Leak ? What oil Leak ? Oh, Thats Just The Sweat From All The HorsePower!!"


Re: Wanted to make sure I'm doing this right.
Monday, January 23, 2012 12:55 PM
Ya I almost used that hone to do my ecotec as I worked there and got it cheap, my engine builder showed me how to use a ball hone and get a 45 degree cross hatch, glad I didn't use that, you might want to mike the cylinders for bore specs, you could have gone too far.....



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