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tie rod ends.. or something like that ..are flat??
Monday, February 28, 2005 1:57 PM
someone pointed these out to me at a local meet.. dont really know wut they do, or how to fix it, if it is even broken or flat or.. well can anyone just tell me anything about these and if i need to do anything to them?


dave?






Re: tie rod ends.. or something like that ..are flat??
Monday, February 28, 2005 2:02 PM
You can fill them up again using a grease gun & that little nipple on the top.. I forget the technical name..

I filled mine up a little bit- not too much, or it might seep out the bottom or break the rubber.

Im not sure if they're supposed to be flat, but whatever.


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Re: tie rod ends.. or something like that ..are flat??
Monday, February 28, 2005 2:09 PM
well the people i talked to said that if they are not filled rubber rubs on rubber and causes alot of vibrations inside the car, and i have problems with this, and thats why they looked at them in the first place, thanks



Re: tie rod ends.. or something like that ..are flat??
Monday, February 28, 2005 2:20 PM
in the fourth pick, theres a zerk fitting on top of them, get a grease gun and pump some in into it comes out the bottom of the bushing. do it to the other side and clean off greasy parts of your car, you should find a few more for the front end.


-Borsty
Re: tie rod ends.. or something like that ..are flat??
Monday, February 28, 2005 3:20 PM
Zerk fitting... YES!!!

I still prefer nipple though.


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Re: tie rod ends.. or something like that ..are fl
Monday, February 28, 2005 8:50 PM
Possibly the reference to "flat" was there was no feeling of any grease remaining

when the rubber boots were squeezed with fingers.


Squeezing these things is about the only way to tell if there is any grease squishing

around inside.


When I add any grease I watch for the boots to puff out and swell up just a little.


As someone warned, too much grease can split the boots. High pressure grease

guns are a very bad idea. Only hand pump guns are safe.
Re: tie rod ends.. or something like that ..are fl
Monday, February 28, 2005 9:05 PM
According to my owner's manual and the GM Service Manual, you are supposed to lubricate the chassis every 6000 miles or 6 months. You are doing the required maintenance, right?


Re: tie rod ends.. or something like that ..are fl
Monday, February 28, 2005 9:12 PM
Lees04Cav wrote:According to my owner's manual and the GM Service Manual, you are supposed to lubricate the chassis every 6000 miles or 6 months. You are doing the required maintenance, right?


obviously not



Re: tie rod ends.. or something like that ..are fl
Tuesday, March 01, 2005 6:59 AM
Your ball joints need some grease too .. problem is GM forgot to put zerk/nipples on these so you could fill them up. If you buy a grease gun @ the parts store (small 1 is like $15 with 3 tubes of grease) also buy the little needle with it .. you can use this very small needle tip to fill the ball joints @ the same time you use the regular fitting for the tie rod ends !!

Hope that helps.



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Re: tie rod ends.. or something like that ..are fl
Thursday, March 03, 2005 8:40 PM
where are these things at, could u use MS Paint and kinda point them out and give me instructions? thanks



Re: tie rod ends.. or something like that ..are fl
Thursday, March 03, 2005 9:14 PM
Identifying picture of complete suspension and steering assemblies --

http://www.autopart.com/scripts/parts/Suspension.idc

Re: tie rod ends.. or something like that ..are fl
Saturday, March 05, 2005 6:35 AM
I always just call them GREASE FITTINGS...


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Re: tie rod ends.. or something like that ..are fl
Saturday, March 05, 2005 1:57 PM
Leland Sparks wrote:Identifying picture of complete suspension and steering assemblies --


bad link...
anyone?



Re: tie rod ends.. or something like that ..are fl
Saturday, March 05, 2005 3:33 PM
oviously you know that they are called tie-rods........they are attached to the inner tierods which are attached to the power steering rac which in turn turns the wheels from left to right. Now that, that is said and done you can move on to the maintence part of them....i grease mine every 3,000 mi or every Oil change.if you dont grease them and all the grease is expelled out of the boot and in the joint eventually it will wear out ( the joint will be metal on metal causing premautre wear).....the joint is very tight and if there is not lubrication then , well you get the picture....on top of the tierod is a grease fitting....if you get a grease gun you want to pump grease into them but not to much to let the boot split open...just fill it till it starts to swell up..as far as the ball joints go i would not recommend poking a hole into the boot and greasing it that way....the lower ball joints have nogrease fitting because they are a sealed unit...there is some grease in them but from the factory....if for some reason you had to replace a lower ball joint you probably could get a ball joint with a grease fitting on it....i dont really replace lower ball joints on cavaliers or grand am's that have no grease fittings.....IMO i think the lower ball joints are pretty durable they way they are....hope this helps any..........



Re: tie rod ends.. or something like that ..are fl
Monday, March 07, 2005 9:03 PM
so i just fill the tie rod ends with grease using a grease gun and thats it?



Re: tie rod ends.. or something like that ..are fl
Monday, March 07, 2005 9:19 PM
dirty elf wrote:so i just fill the tie rod ends with grease using a grease gun and thats it?



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Re: tie rod ends.. or something like that ..are flat??
Tuesday, March 08, 2005 6:01 PM
dirty elf wrote:well the people i talked to said that if they are not filled rubber rubs on rubber and causes alot of vibrations inside the car, and i have problems with this, and thats why they looked at them in the first place, thanks

hehe ..the boot rubs on itself and doing so causes vibrations.......riiiiight, well dude find new people to ask for advise..hehe thats a good one..stick with advise from the .org
correct me if i'm wrong but those are aftermarket tie rod-ends, OEM didn't come with zerk's, meaning so they can't be that old. but just incase you wanna make sure there still ok, check for play. either by squeesing them with channel lock pliers or have someone move the steering back and forward while you hold the tie rod-end
Re: tie rod ends.. or something like that ..are flat??
Wednesday, March 09, 2005 3:45 PM
uuum ya the oem tie rods did come with fittings on them, unless someone put them on my car when i was asleep, teh ball joints dont have fittings on them tho


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Re: tie rod ends.. or something like that ..are flat??
Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:21 AM
EdgeZ24 wrote:
dirty elf wrote:well the people i talked to said that if they are not filled rubber rubs on rubber and causes alot of vibrations inside the car, and i have problems with this, and thats why they looked at them in the first place, thanks

hehe ..the boot rubs on itself and doing so causes vibrations.......riiiiight, well dude find new people to ask for advise..hehe thats a good one..stick with advise from the .org
correct me if I'm wrong but those are after-market tie rod-ends, OEM didn't come with zerk's, meaning so they can't be that old. but just in-case you wanna make sure there still ok, check for play. either by squeezing them with channel lock pliers or have someone move the steering back and forward while you hold the tie rod-end


your wrong his 2000 and my 2002 both have the fittings, maybe on an older car they were sealed, i know that in inner tie-rods are sealed but not the outer ones.

elf we never said that they were not filled. however someone there did mention the idea of why not have a poly bushing there instead of the stock item.

the dealer did not lube mine at oil changes,(stupid maintenance contract) they ended up being deflated and the boots actually tore a bit at the seams. the dealer claimed that they were sealed and didn't need any attention. the ones on elfs car look just like what mine did. i replaced mine do to when i tried to fill them the grease came out the side long before the joint even tried to fill, one pump and the grease was out the side.as soon as these were changed out the vibration went away immediately.

Bryan if you wanna borrow my grease gun your more than welcome to it. just let me know.

need a reference? here ya go Chilton's manual page 8-4 fig16-fig 20 please note that the newer cars do not have a king nut.can also be seen on page 8-11 fig 53-57. in the Haynes book there is a really good picture on page 10-2 fig 1.1 item number 9





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