do they exist and if so where can i find one
I found a 62mm one somewhere...I don't remember exactly where though. I'll look through my receipts tonight or tomorrow. I got a 62mm throttle body from the same guys
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Search the threads for the 2.3 HO throttle body swap. It's said to be "bolt on" though some people seem to have more trouble than others. The threads will help you out. Also, I think Phil Lindsay was talking about making a custom 2200 intake for under $500. Don't know if he ever got around to it, but I'd get in touch with him.
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would like one as well.
but im a cheap ass! haha.
and would not wanna spend $500 or close to it,
for just a single part for my 2200! ..maybe for two
parts. lol. likei said, im cheap!
how much are the 2.3 converion ones cost normally?
whatever a yard will charge for one
the only thing i can find on sites are gaskets lol fail
I think Venom offers an intake manifold for the OHV motor. Kinda pricey but Id look into it.
ill have to look when i get off work, jbo is the only site i visit here
Most people pick them up for around $50 at local junk yards. They're fairly easy to remove yourself, so if you have a u-pull-it yard near you i'd hit it up.
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im not looking for an oem replacement
the 2200 is 52mm whereas the 2.3 HO is 56mm stock. so it is an UPGRADE by 4mm, which is significant. I'm told makes a noticeable difference though I have yet to see dyno sheets though...
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no one here is talking about manifolds.. all i hear is throttle body talk
azncav wrote:no one here is talking about manifolds.. all i hear is throttle body talk
You're not "listening" very well then...
Ethan Duke wrote:I think Venom offers an intake manifold for the OHV motor. Kinda pricey but Id look into it.
Ryan Pitt wrote:Also, I think Phil Lindsay was talking about making a custom 2200 intake for under $500. Don't know if he ever got around to it, but I'd get in touch with him.
fortune cookie say: better a delay than a disaster
OHV notec wrote:azncav wrote:no one here is talking about manifolds.. all i hear is throttle body talk
You're not "listening" very well then...
Ethan Duke wrote:I think Venom offers an intake manifold for the OHV motor. Kinda pricey but Id look into it.
Ryan Pitt wrote:Also, I think Phil Lindsay was talking about making a custom 2200 intake for under $500. Don't know if he ever got around to it, but I'd get in touch with him.
Ok lets get this straight. Hogan will make one for $1,500. A few people on here have said they would make one or are in the process of making one. The only person that was willing to take a deposit to actually get one made was Mark at OEM.
OEM wanted $750, plus your going to have expenses in throttle body and a fuel rail. (in my case nitrous bungs as well)
This is something I have been trying to get some one to make me for well over a year. If any body comes threw and actually wants to do this let me know because I am 100% on board as long as the manifold it self is under $500. Yes I know making custom products cost a lot of money to manufacture. But if your able to make 1 you can make 50 and Im sure 50 2200 intake manifolds wouldnt be enough to fill all the interest.
azncav wrote:no one here is talking about manifolds.. all i hear is throttle body talk
That's because most people don't want to spend around 500 dollars for a custom intake manifold; which is fine, I don't either. But cheap CUSTOM intake manifolds don't exist for the 2200 as of now. So we're offering a cheaper solution to make gains in the same department ie: bigger throttle bodies.
On that note, has anyone ever bored out their factory one and if so how much and did it mess things up like idle and such? I have a spare stock 52mm and a buddy with a machine shop so price isn't really an issue.
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from what I was told by the machine shop that did my port work you can not open up a 2200 TB much if at all.
the only other manifold i know of would be the s10 2200 manifold
no more cavy...now 240 =]
I see a cool-air intake
It's got a NOS-fogger system and a T-4 turbo
I see an A.I.C. controller
It has direct port nitrous injection
Yeah, a stand-alone fuel management system
...Not a bad way to spend $10,000
The S10 2200 Manifold will not fit with out major work and it would not be worth the head aches.
i dont really think you will find anyone to build a quality intake for 500.... there is no support in the j community because no one is willing to spend money on products that are properly built, 700-725 is what i charge for intakes and when you think of all the money in materials and time your looking at a very small amount of profit, the 2200 would cost more to construct to i would think because would need a cnc'd head flang with injector bungs and then your going to have to have bent runners, fuel rail mount etc. if someone built a intake for 500 your looking at a cheap intake or someone is not making a dime to construct it.
R.I.P. Brian Klocke, you will never be forgotten
im interested now.
so is anyone going to answer the quetion is this REALLY bolt on or does it need special adapters and a tune to work properly???? my 2200 is so weak even with msd coil packs/wires, axle back 2.5" exhaust, intake, it pales in comparison to my ecotec and my ecotec isnt even fast.
If you check the threads you'll find it.
http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=2&i=380309&t=380206#380309
Some people say it bolts right up and others don't. This means it probably depends on which model year you're getting. I HAVE NOT actually done this mod so anyone who has may feel free to correct any errors. Like I said, I haven't actually done this. It seems that the sensors from both throttle bodies are interchangeable, though I would suggest leaving the throttle position sensor that's on the 2.3 TB on it. I say this because unless you have a scanner to show you the % the throttle is open, you'll have a hard time dialing it in and making sure that flat to the floor is 100% and totally off the pedal is 0%. You won't NEED a tune to see gains, but it's always a suggestion to increase the % of actual gain. It looks like the best thing you can do to maximize results is a good port and polish for the head, which makes sense. From my research the issues look something like this:
A: In every case, you are missing one of the smaller vacuum fittings so you have 2 options: 1, put a T adapter off of the one on the 2.3 throttle body and hook both your lines to that. 2, drill a hole in the appropriate place on the throttle body and braze a fitting in. Some people claimed to have trouble with the T adapter not supplying enough vacuum, and thus made the engine run rough at an idle, while others reported no problems. It's possible those who had trouble had problems elsewhere contributing to the issues.
B: It seems that most of the 2.3 throttle bodies also only have 3 usable holes for the bolts that mount it to the intake. Again, you have 2 options: 1, bolt the 3 down and leave it be. Typically, it'll seal just fine with 3 bolts unless you're running forced induction. 2, Figure out how/where to drill it out and get real skilled with a hand drill or find a drill press somewhere.
C: Some people had trouble getting the throttle cable to fit whereas others did not. The people who had trouble simply cut a slot out of the throttle wheel with a hack saw so they could slide the ball on the end of the cable through.
I think I hit all of the major things. Anyone who knows more please help out!
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Like I said before, I would be willing to make one ..... no problem, im a mechanical designer.
Lol but the only problem would be the injector bungs, since they are on a 3 axis layout.
I was actually laying in bed with my girlfriend last night, trying to figure out how to make them easily machinable.
As for the cost, I would do it for a flat rate of labor and materials + shipping and +$100 for R&D.
So not sure how long or how much it would take, but I would do it!
**I was actually laying in bed with my girlfriend last night, trying to figure out how to make them easily machinable.**
Am I the only one who sees something terribly wrog with this sentence. LOL
