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ln2 question(about actualy parts not more speed dood!)
Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:28 PM
New valve train in the head with 3 angle valve job port and polish.
Cometic mls 030 head gasket. Arp main studs and arp head studs. Topfeed conversion custom made intake manifold with custom billett fuel rail with 44lb injectors.
The block has been machined 020 over and been honed. Oil passages have been bored 010 bigger.
The motor has eagle h beam rods which are forged rods.
Motor also has wiseco forged 020 over pistons built for boost or n/a
crankshaft has been knifeedged and micropolished and a full balance of the rotating assembly has been done
brand new timing set by clevite has been installed
clevite tm77 cam rod and main bearings have been installed
block is shot peened and dipped

Ok guys sellin a ln2 with all that brand new block etc. never been started... which is my concern, in your the orgs. opinon would it be a good idea to buy this even though its never been started? (im just concerned bout seals settin right etc.)


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Re: ln2 question(about actualy parts not more speed dood!)
Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:56 PM
Ive never been a fan of buying someone else's "built" motor,always seemed weird to me....never know how the guy assembled it. He could have just bought parts and shoved them in not knowing any better. But then again it could be a Hendrix Motorsports LN2............lol.....Chance u gotta take




Re: ln2 question(about actualy parts not more speed dood!)
Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:58 PM
well thats my issue, lol i kinda wanna take it all apart just to make sure its all good and so iknow everything and stuff, i guess ill take my chance after i know, is this a good set up for boost?


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Re: ln2 question(about actualy parts not more speed dood!)
Tuesday, August 10, 2010 9:13 PM
first off...ive never heard of shot peening the block...normally people shot peen rods to relieve stress....and as far as pistons go telling me they are good for boost/na means nothing....compression ratio would be helpful to know




Re: ln2 question(about actualy parts not more speed dood!)
Tuesday, August 10, 2010 9:30 PM
i just copy and pasted his craigslist im waitin for a txt back on compression ratio


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Re: ln2 question(about actualy parts not more speed dood!)
Wednesday, August 11, 2010 7:27 AM
New valvetrain - doesnt specifiy if it's stock or equivelant, or upgraded parts
Pistons - I'd want to find out what the comp ratio is

Find out how long the engine has sat, how was it assembled, who assembled it, etc. Make sure assembly lube was used where necesary and that it was torqued properly.

If I got that engine from someone I didnt know off say craigslist, I'd probably pull the valvetrain, check all the head bolts, then pull the oil pan and check the rod cap & crank bolts and make sure everything was torqued to spec. Unless it had receipt of a respectable engine shop having done the assembly. That's easy enough to check with the engine out of the car, it would be worth the piece of mind. It would also be worth it to see the pistons/rods to confirm they are what they are claimed to be, etc.

Try to get any/all receipts for the work done.

Edit:
Just my advice.... Anyone could claim the world in an engine, sell it, once you get a chance to open it up and check it out, you could find it's nothing but stock... then they have dissapeared off the face of the planet.. SPECIFICALLY on craigslist where that could be easily done. Just check all your bases if you are really interested in it.


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Re: ln2 question(about actualy parts not more speed dood!)
Wednesday, August 11, 2010 7:54 AM
i would have him give you a built sheet with part numbers and a guarantee if not found in same condition (take it apart when you get home)
I would pick it up at his baby mommas house just so you know where to go if it craps the bed



Re: ln2 question(about actualy parts not more speed dood!)
Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:20 AM
I know of quite a few instances where someone bought an engine/car complete with receipts and everything, later to find out he had been screwed by the shop originally.
Do not buy an engine without first taking off the oil pan. If it has aftermarket pistons/rods and a knife-edged crank, you could get a hell of a deal
I'd still take it apart and re-torque though...




fortune cookie say: better a delay than a disaster
Re: ln2 question(about actualy parts not more speed dood!)
Wednesday, August 11, 2010 3:08 PM
9.5 to 1. he has recipts for all the parts and boxes i mean everything seems to be fine ive been meetin up with him to go over it at his house, he said he'd had no issue if i took it apart before i bought it.


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Re: ln2 question(about actualy parts not more speed dood!)
Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:30 PM
Jazer & Notec are right... Unless there's a good reputation standing to go on, don't buy an engine from someone.

I've gotten screwed on even a stock reman replacement in my '94, and between the cost of transport to the shop (Lowest price shop I could find) and the "Additional faults found" added to the work, I wound-up paying $3500.00 for it. Then, about 35,000mi later... The timing-chain failed! (Search about that here & you'll see what I mean) I installed a GM replacement, then located the receipt for the engine & called the shop on it since it was still under their warranty... Only to learn that their number had been disconnected!


Go beyond the "bolt-on".
Re: ln2 question(about actualy parts not more speed dood!)
Thursday, August 12, 2010 6:28 AM
Did you find out what he wants for it?




Re: ln2 question(about actualy parts not more speed dood!)
Thursday, August 12, 2010 10:40 AM
Taking it apart and retorquing it properly is going to cost a bit mind you. Since the bolts are torque to yield and shouldnt be reused. So to do it properly you need two new sets of bolts. One to torque to check bearing clearances and another for the final assembly.



Re: ln2 question(about actualy parts not more speed dood!)
Thursday, August 12, 2010 3:55 PM
TheSundownFire (GME Chat) wrote:Taking it apart and retorquing it properly is going to cost a bit mind you. Since the bolts are torque to yield and shouldnt be reused. So to do it properly you need two new sets of bolts. One to torque to check bearing clearances and another for the final assembly.
It says ARP head/main studs, and Eagle uses ARP rod bolts as well. ARP is not torque-to-yield. So, the only cost I see is time and some assembly lube.




fortune cookie say: better a delay than a disaster
Re: ln2 question(about actualy parts not more speed dood!)
Thursday, August 12, 2010 4:25 PM
Ya this is my motor. Just decided to go with a Eco . Block was dipped and shot peened by a local shop. I am only asking for a fraction of what I spent.
Eagle h beams
wiseco 020 over pistons
balanced rotating assy
custom topfeed
billett rail
timing was redone
head was rebuilt with stock parts
turbo Mani
44 lb injectors
3 angle grind job
arp head and mains
cometic headgasket
all new gaskets
all new pillows
Ohio generator alternator powdercoated to match the motor
and no problem taking the pan off for him to see the internals
what's the problem??



Re: ln2 question(about actualy parts not more speed dood!)
Friday, August 13, 2010 12:05 AM
600



Re: ln2 question(about actualy parts not more speed dood!)
Friday, August 13, 2010 12:34 AM
Fair price.


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Re: ln2 question(about actualy parts not more speed dood!)
Friday, August 13, 2010 7:13 AM
I paid 550$ for my eagle rods & wiseco pistons alone for my LN2.

Very fair price considering it hasn't been run.



Re: ln2 question(about actualy parts not more speed dood!)
Friday, August 13, 2010 9:03 AM
Amazing price. The machine work alone would be more than that.




fortune cookie say: better a delay than a disaster
Re: ln2 question(about actualy parts not more speed dood!)
Saturday, August 14, 2010 12:09 AM
Never mind everyone. He called today and said his hot water heater blew up and needs repair. What luck!! Lol
any other takers before I part it out???



Re: ln2 question(about actualy parts not more speed dood!)
Saturday, August 14, 2010 6:38 AM
which ln2 is this?
Re: ln2 question(about actualy parts not more speed dood!)
Saturday, August 14, 2010 9:31 AM
Ohv 95.




Re: ln2 question(about actualy parts not more speed dood!)
Saturday, August 14, 2010 10:13 AM
might know someone that is interested. where are you located?
Re: ln2 question(about actualy parts not more speed dood!)
Saturday, August 14, 2010 2:50 PM
By Detroit Michigan if interested please email
gmto2nr@yahoo.com



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