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Cracked Tranny Pan!
Monday, January 16, 2006 3:19 PM
I have a 96 Cavalier Ls Sedan dropped with H&R Springs(1.6in drop all around) and Tokico HP Struts(Blue) on 17in rims with 215/45/ZR17 rated tires. The drop is uneven, the front is way lower than the back. have cracked my tranny pan 3 times. I Live in NY City and the roads are kinda rough but i have friends with Honda's whose cars are way lower than mine and have never had this problem. What do you think is the cause of this? The uneven drop, the rims and tires, just NYC roads or even the 2.4L motor I was told than the 2.2L motor is lighter and that makes a difference in the drop. Do you have any suggestions on how i can fix the problem?

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Re: Cracked Tranny Pan!
Monday, January 16, 2006 3:26 PM
the drop being different front to back is normal , the rear sits higher stock , so using the same drop rated spring will leave the rear up higher


and the trans pan problem would be a combo of being droped (with any springs) , the crappy roads

also you should be using a 225/45 , not a 215/45 , the 225/45 is a hair larger than the stock size tire , the 215/45 is more than a few hairs shorter than the stock tire size


to fix the problem , raise the car back up







Re: Cracked Tranny Pan!
Monday, January 16, 2006 3:55 PM
would cutting the springs in the back work or just change completely to sportlines?

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Re: Cracked Tranny Pan!
Monday, January 16, 2006 4:10 PM
Cutting springs is BAD NEWS! Don't do it.

You have the wrong size tires, and that's probably making the biggest difference.
But the Tokico HPs are NOT meant for H&R springs.
The combination of those two problems is why you're bottoming out so much.



Re: Cracked Tranny Pan!
Monday, January 16, 2006 6:11 PM
Yeah maybe struts are blown and causing you to bottom out? H&R shouldnt be too low.

No to cutting springs, no to sportlines, both options aren't going to help you (and cutting springs is just plain dumb). Get springs with less of a drop if anything. Also check the struts to see if they're blown or not - rock the car by standing half inside the car and half out with door open and just jump up and down. If the car keeps bouncing up and down for a while chances are your struts are shot.



Re: Cracked Tranny Pan!
Monday, January 16, 2006 6:39 PM
My struts are good and i made a mistake they are B&G Springs.

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Re: Cracked Tranny Pan!
Tuesday, January 17, 2006 6:48 AM
B&G where really meant for saturns, they are alil weak for holding up a cavalier, atleast thats what my uncle said when i asked if i could move them from my old car to my sunfire/cavalier. i know they make diferent types, but the saturn ones and cavy ones are similiar, it is possible someone just sent you the wrong ones.
Re: Cracked Tranny Pan!
Tuesday, January 17, 2006 1:47 PM
I have B+Gs they sit very low (the whole 1.6"). The HPs will not control B+Gs though, and you'll bounce right down into the pavement.



Re: Cracked Tranny Pan!
Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:05 AM
Jay Blake wrote:I have a 96 Cavalier Ls Sedan dropped with H&R Springs(1.6in drop all around) and Tokico HP Struts(Blue) on 17in rims with 215/45/ZR17 rated tires. The drop is uneven, the front is way lower than the back. have cracked my tranny pan 3 times. I Live in NY City and the roads are kinda rough but i have friends with Honda's whose cars are way lower than mine and have never had this problem. What do you think is the cause of this? The uneven drop, the rims and tires, just NYC roads or even the 2.4L motor I was told than the 2.2L motor is lighter and that makes a difference in the drop. Do you have any suggestions on how i can fix the problem?


H&R springs have ALWAYS been 1.4 in the rear and 1.6 in the front.


Applications for 2000 Chevrolet / GMC Cavalier
Suspension

Stage Chassis Sport Spring
Notes 22
Approx Front Lowering 1.6
Approx. Rear Lowering 1.4
Part Number 50734
Sug. Retail $ 329.00 Kit


and never cut a spring, especially a progressive thats designed to keep positive rake angle....

if you dont know what rake angles are or what role they play on handling, thats the number one sign you need to do more research, cause for starters, h&r were NEVER 1.6 all the way around as you originally said.


and performance springs are made to perform, not to be perfect sitting on a car which has an imperfect chassis. even if you have b=g springs with the same 1.6 all the way around.

you drive a cavalier, not a noble m12



springs are the cheaper end of the spectrum to lower your car..... meaning you dont have ANY adjustability without screwing things up....just check out the jacked and wrecked forum, theres quite a few cars there that are results of crap suspension and people who didnt know what they were doing in cutting progressive springs.



Re: Cracked Tranny Pan!
Thursday, January 19, 2006 6:26 AM
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just check out the jacked and wrecked forum
Where is that? Link?



Re: Cracked Tranny Pan!
Thursday, January 19, 2006 6:36 AM
Click the general forum, then click the "Jacked/Wrecked" link at the top.

Or ... Jacked/Wrecked Forum

As for the road conditions in NY vs. your car/springs/struts... you really need to take things like that into consideration BEFORE you mod a car. Things like where and how it will be driven and whether those mods will allow it. You obviously knew the roads were bad wehre you lived, yet you lowered the car anyway. There may be a happy medium for you, but to accomodate the local road conditions you may have to take it back to stock height.







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