I'm planning on getting 17" Motegi MR4 and I want to lower the car before putting the wheels on. I wasn't planning on getting any visual things, since I like to spend my money under the hood, but I removed the stock spoiler and I had to do something to "complement" it. SOOOOO, I want to know what will be a good setup for a lowering. Someone recommended me the koni reds and the sportlines. I think they don't do the reds anymore. I want your advices, since I have no experience with suspension mods, I don't know what's good for our cars so I need help. Thanks
Oh I forgot, what kind of work is involved with this and how many time and beers does it take to have it done.... Thanks
Da Ghost (Qc) wrote:I'm planning on getting 17" Motegi MR4 and I want to lower the car before putting the wheels on. I wasn't planning on getting any visual things, since I like to spend my money under the hood, but I removed the stock spoiler and I had to do something to "complement" it. SOOOOO, I want to know what will be a good setup for a lowering. Someone recommended me the koni reds and the sportlines. I think they don't do the reds anymore. I want your advices, since I have no experience with suspension mods, I don't know what's good for our cars so I need help. Thanks
First of all, you can read the FAQ at the top of the forum, it has the answers to almost any question you'll have when it comes to suspension.
But yeah, koni reds are no longer in production, they've been replaced by the yellows which are adjustable while on the car, whereas the reds you needed to take them off the car, adjust them, and then get another alignment.
First off, chosing your suspension, you probably wanna consider how low you CAN go. If you're worried about scraping, something like Eibach Pro-Kit (1.4") or less would probably be ideal. If you think you can go lower, you have Eibach Sportline, Goldlines, Sprint, etc. (read FAQ for more)
You can also get into coil overs if you want adjustability.
Just keep in mind, the lower you go, the more you're gonna need to spend on struts, and you DONT wanna be riding around on stock struts if you're lowered substancially, no matter what 'shop' tells you otherwise.
and if you give a crap about handling, trying to make the car as low as possible is prob the worst thing to do....
optimal lowering is around 1.5 inches for performance.
whatever your choice is (springs or coils) please get struts to go w/ it. suspension mods arent cheap so dont think your looking to only spend about 300 and be done
Are the koni yellows and Sportlines a good combo and give a good drop, I saw 1.7 front and 2.3 rear. I check the installation of the koni and it already giving me headache, I don't have a compression tool, torque wrench, jack stand and some other stuff. I don't consider koni yellow as my only choice, if someone know about a better choice... Thanks
there isnt a better choice. koni is the best strut out there. you can get agx's ( i think thats what their called) if your gonna use springs. if you get coils, konis is a must. spring compressors you can rent or you can buy a set. i got a set for 30 bucks at sears.
Cinny posted a how to guide on koni yellow installation so you could very easily do it yourself. I believe you can rent a torque wrench and spring compressor from autozone. The torque wrench is something you should invest in though if you plan on doing more modifications or repairs to your car. If you buy one, get a quality one that can go up to 200ft lbs.
Basily, here's my list of best suspension combo's from most expensive to leasts expensive and consequently best to good:
1. Full Coilover setup from Gravana (includes 16 way adjustable shocks, you just need to buy new mounts and you wouldn't need a spring compressor) $1000-1500
2. Ground Control Coilovers w/ Koni Yellow's ~$1000
3. Springs with about a 1.5 drop (H&R's, B&G, and Eibach Pro-Kit- don't consider any cheap ebay springs here) with Koni Yellows ~$700
4. Springs with a max of a 1.5 drop (Pro-Kit is reccomended here) and KYB AGX's ~$550
I'm using H&R springs with KYB AGX shocks and the total was about $500 shipped. I like them and I don't see why anyone would want to go lower. I already scrape stuff all the time so I can't imagine what it would be like on the sportlines. My setup is also fine for autocrossing. Coilovers really aren't necessary unless you need to adjust your height often and you do some serious kind of road racing, in my opinion.
Are the AGX come with all the necesseray stuff to install??? Is it a bolt on or you need to change the mount like some other one???
wouldnt say koni is the best.... there are a few more companies out there that are more adjustable than koni right off the bat.
billsteins are yet another option.
if you are in it for performance ditch the sportlines and go for the pro kit.
Dam-it Muffins (Event) wrote:if you are in it for performance ditch the sportlines and go for the pro kit.
I'm actually considering this - I have my sportlines already, and I just ordered the D-Specs today. Either way it will be a nice ride, but I'm thinking I'll ride around for a little with the sportlines, if I dont like them I'll swap em out for a set of prokits.
go with H&R and AGX's (1.6 on front and 1.4 in the back)
Its great for racing
I need a new sig =(
Do they come will everything you need or you have to change or get something else????
Dam-it Muffins (Event) wrote:and if you give a crap about handling, trying to make the car as low as possible is prob the worst thing to do....
optimal lowering is around 1.5 inches for performance.
What he said. Handling as a good amount to do with performance. If your going at high speeds and you don't feel stable, what's the good of going that fast?
Lowering your car will also help in response.
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Hey I was just woundering, which H&R do you recoomend me?? Are they about all the same or is there a difference with the height? Thanks
H&R's are a little lower and probably stiffer than the eibach pro-kit's. I'm using H&R's with AGX's and its a very good performance combination that works well on the street too.
i'm surprised that nobody has suggested the tokico's that are out either. they are a direct replacement and are damping adjustable.
Are the KYB AGX a bolt-on upgrade???
Da Ghost (Qc) wrote:Are the KYB AGX a bolt-on upgrade???
Yes
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Da Ghost (Qc) wrote:Nice, thanks..
Your welcome
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Da Ghost (Qc) wrote:Are the KYB AGX a bolt-on upgrade???
If you want bolt on, dont go with AGX, go with the Tokico D-Spec. They'll handle the sportlines better. If you go with Eibach Prokit, then AGX is fine (and a little bit cheaper as well).
sportlines arent really made for performance though in the first place.... more for looks.
Dam-it Muffins (Event) wrote:sportlines arent really made for performance though in the first place.... more for looks.
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