anyone heard anything on the FP green turbo? I know the FP red is suppose to be coming out soon. the seem to be extremely popular for the evos since they use the stock flange and manifold. buddy is making about 430awhp on 28psi and meth with his evo.
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^^ im intrested now as well..those turbos use the td04h mounting flange dont they? From what i hae found they are popular and do well in that crowd..evo and subies..phil
TD05. ......... why do you want to use a mitsu style turbo, a TD05 size is like a T28,T30.
people with LD9's are making 430 WHP at 15 LBS.... less boost = less heat.
Chris
'02 Z-24 Supercharged
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Taetsch Z-24 wrote:TD05. ......... why do you want to use a mitsu style turbo, a TD05 size is like a T28,T30.
people with LD9's are making 430 WHP at 15 LBS.... less boost = less heat.
Chris
Less boost does not mean less heat with a turbo. Most turbos big enough to make that kind of power are actually more efficient at 25 psi than they are at 15 psi, strange but true.
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Back on topic, a FP Green is cool to use as a direct bolt on factory replacement for other cars but its not worth it's price to use on our cars. You'd be much better of to use a Garrett GT for than kind of $$$.
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I cant really see the flange on the turbo but would this be an upgrade for the saab eco guys?
Taetsch Z-24 wrote:TD05. ......... why do you want to use a mitsu style turbo, a TD05 size is like a T28,T30.
people with LD9's are making 430 WHP at 15 LBS.... less boost = less heat.
Chris
1. i have a mitsu super 20g from hahn now. so im already using a mitsu turbo
2. is an internal gate
3. i wont need a new manifold.
4.it still has stock spool time like an evo 16g (which is around 2500rpms)
and what jermy said is right. a big turbo like a gt45r takes awhile to hit 15psi... so its not efficient at that boost level. but once our at 15psi, from 15psi to 25psi. its quick and makes an increadable amount of power.
FP green turbo is a few hundred cheaper then a 35r. BUT add in the cost for a new manifold, external wastegate, flange, etc. its gonna be almost another grand.
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lol wow @!#$ty spelling in that last post. sorry was on a friends computer and in a hurry
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You have a mitsu variant turbo which uses a T3 style flange. Now I can't speak for the Evo turbos or the FP's, but old school DSM turbos had their flange clocked 90*. I've never researched a FP to see if it will fit the HAHN manifolds.
i was talking about a T3/T04 60-1, or a GT30,GT35.
but it sounds like you have your mind made up, so why where you asking?
Chris
'02 Z-24 Supercharged
13.7 @102.45 MPH Third Place, 2007 GMSC Bash SOLD AS OF 01MAR08
Taetsch Z-24 wrote:i was talking about a T3/T04 60-1, or a GT30,GT35.
but it sounds like you have your mind made up, so why where you asking?
Chris
again. will require an external waste gate and new manifold..just because a turbo isnt a garrett doesnt mean its not any good.
and i was asking what people knew about the FP green turbo. and i dont have my mind made up. but from a cost efficient stand point. there is no reason for me to chose those garret turbos due to the extra cost and work that will be needed.
no need to be a dick. i asked for info on the turbo. not for people to bash me for wanting info on it.. if you dont have any info to help, then dont waste room posting.
FstCavZ24 wrote:You have a mitsu variant turbo which uses a T3 style flange. Now I can't speak for the Evo turbos or the FP's, but old school DSM turbos had their flange clocked 90*. I've never researched a FP to see if it will fit the HAHN manifolds.
hrmm. thanks for that info. i wasnt aware of that. even that, a new flange is an easy fix.
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The fact that they are bolt ons is why FP's are so popular with the Mitsu crowd. FP will make you a green with a T3 style flange but it will cost out the ass and more likely cost more than a Garrett GT series turbo will. GT series turbo should bolt up to the HAHN mani with little troubles.
John H [CavalierKid wrote:]Taetsch Z-24 wrote:i was talking about a T3/T04 60-1, or a GT30,GT35.
but it sounds like you have your mind made up, so why where you asking?
Chris
again. will require an external waste gate and new manifold..just because a turbo isnt a garrett doesnt mean its not any good.
and i was asking what people knew about the FP green turbo. and i dont have my mind made up. but from a cost efficient stand point. there is no reason for me to chose those garret turbos due to the extra cost and work that will be needed.
no need to be a dick. i asked for info on the turbo. not for people to bash me for wanting info on it.. if you dont have any info to help, then dont waste room posting.
FstCavZ24 wrote:You have a mitsu variant turbo which uses a T3 style flange. Now I can't speak for the Evo turbos or the FP's, but old school DSM turbos had their flange clocked 90*. I've never researched a FP to see if it will fit the HAHN manifolds.
hrmm. thanks for that info. i wasnt aware of that. even that, a new flange is an easy fix.
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who is the one that answered you?
Chris
'02 Z-24 Supercharged
13.7 @102.45 MPH Third Place, 2007 GMSC Bash SOLD AS OF 01MAR08
John H [CavalierKid wrote:]Taetsch Z-24 wrote:TD05. ......... why do you want to use a mitsu style turbo, a TD05 size is like a T28,T30.
people with LD9's are making 430 WHP at 15 LBS.... less boost = less heat.
Chris
1. i have a mitsu super 20g from hahn now. so im already using a mitsu turbo
2. is an internal gate
3. i wont need a new manifold.
4.it still has stock spool time like an evo 16g (which is around 2500rpms)
and what jermy said is right. a big turbo like a gt45r takes awhile to hit 15psi... so its not efficient at that boost level. but once our at 15psi, from 15psi to 25psi. its quick and makes an increadable amount of power.
FP green turbo is a few hundred cheaper then a 35r. BUT add in the cost for a new manifold, external wastegate, flange, etc. its gonna be almost another grand.
A turbo not being efficient at low boost has nothing to do with its lag. Just check out a GT3076R map, it will me much more efficient making 400hp at 25psi than it is making 400hp at 15psi.
The ONLY reason guys use those FP turbos is because they are direct bolt ons, like i already said. Its not a direct bolt on for you so there should really be no reason to consider it. I just did a quick search and it seems to be just as expensive (if not more) as the GT turbos but its not nearly as good. You can add a external wastegate flange to your current manifold for close to the same cost as it would be to change your current T3 flange over to a Mitsu flange.
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Skilz10179 wrote:John H [CavalierKid wrote:]Taetsch Z-24 wrote:TD05. ......... why do you want to use a mitsu style turbo, a TD05 size is like a T28,T30.
people with LD9's are making 430 WHP at 15 LBS.... less boost = less heat.
Chris
1. i have a mitsu super 20g from hahn now. so im already using a mitsu turbo
2. is an internal gate
3. i wont need a new manifold.
4.it still has stock spool time like an evo 16g (which is around 2500rpms)
and what jermy said is right. a big turbo like a gt45r takes awhile to hit 15psi... so its not efficient at that boost level. but once our at 15psi, from 15psi to 25psi. its quick and makes an increadable amount of power.
FP green turbo is a few hundred cheaper then a 35r. BUT add in the cost for a new manifold, external wastegate, flange, etc. its gonna be almost another grand.
A turbo not being efficient at low boost has nothing to do with its lag. Just check out a GT3076R map, it will me much more efficient making 400hp at 25psi than it is making 400hp at 15psi.
The ONLY reason guys use those FP turbos is because they are direct bolt ons, like i already said. Its not a direct bolt on for you so there should really be no reason to consider it. I just did a quick search and it seems to be just as expensive (if not more) as the GT turbos but its not nearly as good. You can add a external wastegate flange to your current manifold for close to the same cost as it would be to change your current T3 flange over to a Mitsu flange.
skilz is correct where changing flanges and adding an external wastegate flange would be close to the same price but now try and add in the new external wastegate ud have to buy for that set up... not goin against what he said tho i do agree in the gt series would be better instead of pickin up the FP
Taetsch Z-24 wrote:John H [CavalierKid wrote:]Taetsch Z-24 wrote:i was talking about a T3/T04 60-1, or a GT30,GT35.
but it sounds like you have your mind made up, so why where you asking?
Chris
again. will require an external waste gate and new manifold..just because a turbo isnt a garrett doesnt mean its not any good.
and i was asking what people knew about the FP green turbo. and i dont have my mind made up. but from a cost efficient stand point. there is no reason for me to chose those garret turbos due to the extra cost and work that will be needed.
no need to be a dick. i asked for info on the turbo. not for people to bash me for wanting info on it.. if you dont have any info to help, then dont waste room posting.
FstCavZ24 wrote:You have a mitsu variant turbo which uses a T3 style flange. Now I can't speak for the Evo turbos or the FP's, but old school DSM turbos had their flange clocked 90*. I've never researched a FP to see if it will fit the HAHN manifolds.
hrmm. thanks for that info. i wasnt aware of that. even that, a new flange is an easy fix.
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who is the one that answered you?
Chris
my bad. was on break at work.. had one of those days.
thanks jermey.
btw fyi all. i did some diggin on the specs on that turbo
FP Green
730cfm, Around 500hp. The turbine wheel TD06H
Hahn 20g
680cfm, Aroudn 500hp TDO5H-10CM2 turbine TDO6H-20G compressor
not really too far off from what im currently running. id like to be able to make that 400whp on <20psi. just trying to figure out a way to without going to a laggy turbo and needing an ems
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