i just installed my b&m short shifter on my 96 cavy. and i was needless to say not that impressed. i am not saying it was junk by any means but not worth the money in my opinion....my opinion is a little scewed possibly b/c i am comparing it to linkage shifters maybe but still not that great. giong into 1, 3, 5 it seems pretty short but 2, 4 still seems like quite a throw. i do however think it stifined the shifter up a little which is nice but not $120 nice. kudos go to car customs for getting it to me quickly though, great company to do buisness with.........

-dave

yep thats why i got mine off ebay for 40 dollars including shipping. I wasnt to impressed either, but it was worth 40 bux.


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Madjack wrote:Like I said before, building an engine like ours (2.2 or 2200) is a painstaking chore , since there is so few custom made parts. It's frustrating to me too, but that's what I like about doing this engine, it's the challenge.

I have both styles..... 95-99 and 00-05..... and love them both. Both shortned the throws quite a bit compaired to stock, and made it a bit more 'sure' feeling when shifting.

I'm not sure how it shortned your shift to all the odd gears, but not the even? Your saying the distance from 2nd to 3rd is shorter then 1st to 2nd, or 3rd to 4th? Your statement makes no sence at all. Or do you go from neutral to each gear?

in either case.... I flame you...... cables cant be compaired to linkages in any shape or form. Apples to Oranges.




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while i am driving i do not stop at nuetral no.......after i installed it i was just moving the shifter around to get a feel for it and i noticed that to go into 1, 3, 5, it was a pretty short movement and to the lower gears 2, 4, not so much of a short movement. and yes i know they can't be compaired, i just assumed (wrong of me) that if it took b&m (a great company) this long to come out with this shifter and charge this kind of money for it, that it would be a world of difference. i guess it is just to bad that gm did not use linkage b/c the short throws on linkage shifters are awesome.

i would buy another one in a heartbeat. my jaw hit the floor when i opened the instructions and saw how detailed everything was. it also makes it feel alot smoother compared to how the stock on felt.

mine felt great shorted my shifts thru all the gears. Maybe you just expected more out of it for what you paid for it. Personally I raced a few times against my buddy in his mustang with the stock and then again right after i changed the shifter there was a gain cause i was quicker thru the gears. My buddy even thought it was a great inprovement over stock.... even still to this day he still sez its the best mod ive done so far and I have to agree.


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I love mine personally, after being overseas for a couple of months, pulling the car out of storage the for the first time was great with that real short tight throw. People who've driven my car have commented on how they liked the shifter. Like said above, very good instructions, and was modestly difficult to install (took me quite some time, but worth the effort). I think once you get used to it, you'll realize after driving a stock shifter how short the throw's really feel.

I wonder if maybe you've streched your cables? Maybe that's why your not getting what you expected. Take into account how many km's you've on your cables and how those cables have been treated? Just my 2 cents............



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yeah maybe i will have to try the raplacing the cables and see if that helps at all........

and z speed cavy i think you are correct , i think that i was just expecting more out of it.

thanks for the replies

hahaha, your in for a long one if your going to replace the cables, look where they run b4 u buy the cables...adios

Sounds like your cables aren't adjusted right.... it should be the same throw to 1st as 2nd, 3rd as 4th. If the cables aren't centered when you install it, the mid-point would be off... exactly as you've described.

well, i am aware of where the cables run b/c i did 5 speed swap into this car last year....so i am not worried about that, and lenko how would i go about adjusting them?, i just stuck the cable back into the bracket the same way they were before....i am not horribly worried about it at this exact moment, just the next time i sell some parts that i have lying around i will go buy the cables and toss them on there and see what does........

-dave

I set the the trans in neutral (under the hood) and set the shifter in the middle. Then I clipped the cables onto the rods. Mine has the same distance throw from 1st to 2nd... and 3rd to 4th. But if you set the one cable further forward (than the middle), then it would cause what you're describing.

you should probably adjust the linkages that hook to the shifter thats probably why some throws are short and the others are long

so I flame you for faulty installation and making a post about it

my B&M shifts evenly and very nicely. I love it

already then i appreiciate everyones input except you flying squirrel i installed it the way it said so...........if your going to flame me on the matter which i expected anyway at least do it for something relevant

thanks again

-dave

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already then i appreiciate everyones input except you flying squirrel i installed it the way it said so...........if your going to flame me on the matter which i expected anyway at least do it for something relevant

It might just be me, but I think installation of the component is pretty relevant to how it operates.

if everyone else loves theirs, but you have a problem with yours, then I think maybe somewhere during installation something got screwed up. did you try adjusting the linkages where it connects to the shifter assembly?

If you expect to be flamed, don't cry about it when it happens. If you want to make posts like this in the future, goto the newb forum.

i love mine, works perfectly through all gears. i couldnt believe the diff in shift legnth. little play here and there, but its a very nice improovment over stock.

sounds like linkage, but im no expert... best bet is to get it checked out, may turn out to be worse, or easier for that matter...

already then well i screwed around with the cables a little and the trow seems to be even now, no problem there. i still am not that impressed with the throw though, i like it better then stock that is for sure, but oh well i guess to late now, thanks for your input and sorry if i came off as a @ss, i wasn't trying to be....................

-dave

ya i was going to get one for my 96. but i said the heck with it. the stock one works fine.

i have it on my wifes 02 ls sport, and wow that was worth the 150$. gall damn.

Are they supposed to feel more solid going into gear? I can't decide if it's supposed to be that way, in which case hooray. Or if something's not quite right. Even though when I installed I had the cables within a millimeter or so of where they used to be.

TheFlyingSquirrel (PJ) wrote:you should probably adjust the linkages that hook to the shifter thats probably why some throws are short and the others are long

so I flame you for faulty installation and making a post about it

my B&M shifts evenly and very nicely. I love it

yep.. I suggest checking your cables and how they hook into the shifter, you possibly have them off a litle bit, and even a little bit my throw it off a decent amount, my B&m is amazing, I still need to adjust my cables after 20,000 miles cause its a beyotch to get in first but I cant compare it to anything else for us in terms of quality and ease of installation.

I am not saying you cant do it, but just maybe you made a mistake, cant hurt to oveerlook everything



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I have a 2001 Z24 with the B&M unit. It was one of my best mods. Stock J shifter is sloppy (the pre 2000 is the worse stock). I have driving a pre2000 B&M unit. Much tighter than stock, and shorter!! The B&M products are one of the best products ever made for a J hands down. Looks, quality, performance.



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