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has anybody done this or am I the guinne pig?
Tuesday, June 05, 2007 5:44 PM
Ok im a verry ambitious builder
I have a 97 Z24 4 speed automatic.
I just installed an MJ1 5 speed manual( complete conversion)

had to weld the mount brackets cut the master cylinder hole the whole 9 yards.

Now it wont start????????????????

wiring harness is intact battery is fully charged all sensors hooked up with the exception of those related to the automatic transmission



help?

I just cant drive 55

Re: has anybody done this or am I the guinne pig?
Tuesday, June 05, 2007 6:47 PM
try passlock?
Re: has anybody done this or am I the guinne pig?
Tuesday, June 05, 2007 7:21 PM
Did you swap in a manual engine harness or use the auto engine harness? If you kept the auto harness and ECU the car thinks it is a auto and does not see the car in park to start. There is a way to ground that switch, but I do not know the way.



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Re: has anybody done this or am I the guinne pig?
Tuesday, June 05, 2007 7:41 PM
whats an MJ1 transmission?




Re: has anybody done this or am I the guinne pig?
Tuesday, June 05, 2007 8:27 PM
z yaaaa wrote:whats an MJ1 transmission?


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Re: has anybody done this or am I the guinne pig?
Tuesday, June 05, 2007 8:45 PM
Rich Grayo Jr. wrote:
z yaaaa wrote:whats an MJ1 transmission?


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RPO code for a GM 5 speed trans.

I'm going to guess the Isuzu.



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Re: has anybody done this or am I the guinne pig?
Tuesday, June 05, 2007 11:17 PM
no getrag /munci 98-2005 the tranny is from a 98
um yes on using the auto tranny harness cant get ahold of the connecter pinouts cuz I just finished school last week so I no longer have access to all data
Im gonna grab the harness and the pcm and give that a shot.



whats pass lock?

I just cant drive 55
Re: has anybody done this or am I the guinne pig?
Wednesday, June 06, 2007 6:58 AM
95-99 is isuzu....2000 up is getrag...nevermind te passlock stuff....if you didnt change the harness and computer thats more then likely your problem..
Re: has anybody done this or am I the guinne pig?
Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:43 AM
ok
ill update everyone on my situation later
on my way to get the harness and pcm from a 98

I just cant drive 55
Re: has anybody done this or am I the guinne pig?
Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:59 AM
there is a large yellow and purple wire at the switch for the auto trans , youll never guess what they are for

THEY ARE THE STARTER WIRES







Re: has anybody done this or am I the guinne pig?
Wednesday, June 06, 2007 7:43 PM
ok
as far as the pcm goes they are the same between automatic and manual
out of the 2 vss plugs whick one goes to the tranny the pink and green or the blue and yellow?

as for the yellow and purple wires do I splice those together or completely remove them?

I just cant drive 55

Re: has anybody done this or am I the guinne pig?
Thursday, June 07, 2007 10:10 AM
splice them

as for as it "not starting"

I take that to mean it won't crank.

Won't crank and not start are totally different symptoms.

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Re: has anybody done this or am I the guinne pig?
Thursday, June 07, 2007 1:02 PM
yeah its no crank all i get is dash lights
time to plug and pray

I just cant drive 55
Re: has anybody done this or am I the guinne pig?
Thursday, June 07, 2007 1:38 PM
make sure its the 2 larger wires , like 10-12 gauge wire

the starter circuit runs through the switch on the trans , so it only starts when the car is on park or neutral , switch gone , no contact to go between them wires







Re: has anybody done this or am I the guinne pig?
Thursday, June 07, 2007 5:09 PM
ok thakyou to every one for your help but now I have a new issue

I seem to have 6 forward gears and no reverse............
any suggestions?

I just cant drive 55
Re: has anybody done this or am I the guinne pig?
Thursday, June 07, 2007 5:31 PM
ok revision to the above

reverse is in 2nd gear position?????????

I have no clue how I managed this?

anyway my pcm gets reflashed tomarrow morning

I just cant drive 55
Re: has anybody done this or am I the guinne pig?
Thursday, June 07, 2007 5:43 PM
I am going to take a wild stab at this but... are your shift cables backwards?


Re: has anybody done this or am I the guinne pig?
Thursday, June 07, 2007 6:03 PM
I have no clue

the one that moves when you move the shifter is connected to the lever that moves everything up and down on the tranny
and the other well you know

theres a black one and a white one?

I just cant drive 55
Re: has anybody done this or am I the guinne pig?
Thursday, June 07, 2007 9:47 PM
on the auto, the start safety switch closes the circuit when the tranny's in Park or Neutral (I think it's on the tranny).
on the manny, the start safety switch closes the circuit when the clutch is pushed in (it's prob. behind the clutch pedal)
you should be able to splice a start safety switch in if you find the right wires, and you don't need alldata to find the right wires- just go to the local parts store and get a Chilton or Hayne' s service manual- it has all the wiring diagrams (at least for something this simple)
Just a few thoughts b4 you go to swap the whole harness- that thing goes everywhere
and i think the pink/green is your reverse switch- I had to replace it on my '99 with the isuzu tranny
Re: has anybody done this or am I the guinne pig?
Friday, June 08, 2007 9:52 AM
sounds like you dont have the shift cables on the right spots






Re: has anybody done this or am I the guinne pig?
Friday, June 08, 2007 10:20 PM
ok ill try switching them in the morning.

another problem the dealership wont reflash my pcm because the vin says my car came with an automatic

so anybody got a 97 Z24 with power windows locks mirrors sunroof and trunk release and a 5 speed tranny willing to let me borrow the VIN for a day?

I have to get the car smogged before the end of the month

I just cant drive 55

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