The both look modified to me....
P&P Tuning
420.5whp / 359.8wtq
are you sure you have the pictures aligned right? i have a manual and dont have HO (PE Alcohol) tables or anything like that
12.33 @ 111.67 mph [Oct 2009]
Dyno'd on 08/02/09 - Mustang Dyno:
327.6 WHP 333.6 WTQ [10.1 AFR]
evilmonkitar wrote:are you sure you have the pictures aligned right? i have a manual and dont have HO (PE Alcohol) tables or anything like that
My 03 has the Alchy tables. I think some of the later year calibrations don't have the Alchy tables because that option was only available on 02. So it makes sense that some of the 03s will have the Alchy tables.
It my also be HPT was just lazy and did not remove junk tables from all the calibrations. That has been the case with some other tables in the past which are no longer there because they removed them with subsequent updates.
Those aren't stock files so no way of telling if the map values are stock, kind of a mute point.
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Hahn Stage II - Mitsu TD06-20g |3" Turbo-back Exhaust | 61mm Bored TB |
HP Tuners | Innovate WB02 | Spec Stage 3 | Team Green LSD | TurboTech Upper | Full Addco Sways | Sportlines & Yellows |
hmm i see
so that alchy tables arent used eh?
12.33 @ 111.67 mph [Oct 2009]
Dyno'd on 08/02/09 - Mustang Dyno:
327.6 WHP 333.6 WTQ [10.1 AFR]
I know the tables aren't stock, I was referring more to the axes and the actual existence of the alchy tables.
evilmonkitar wrote:hmm i see
so that alchy tables arent used eh?
Not unless you have an 02 with the Flex Fuel option.
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Hahn Stage II - Mitsu TD06-20g |3" Turbo-back Exhaust | 61mm Bored TB |
HP Tuners | Innovate WB02 | Spec Stage 3 | Team Green LSD | TurboTech Upper | Full Addco Sways | Sportlines & Yellows |
BlackEco wrote:evilmonkitar wrote:hmm i see
so that alchy tables arent used eh?
Not unless you have an 02 with the Flex Fuel option.
hmm, think race gas would trigger those tables?
12.33 @ 111.67 mph [Oct 2009]
Dyno'd on 08/02/09 - Mustang Dyno:
327.6 WHP 333.6 WTQ [10.1 AFR]
evilmonkitar wrote:BlackEco wrote:evilmonkitar wrote:hmm i see
so that alchy tables arent used eh?
Not unless you have an 02 with the Flex Fuel option.
hmm, think race gas would trigger those tables?
No because there is probably a sensor on the Flex Fuel cars that enables them. Maybe someone with an 02 can confirm this.
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Hahn Stage II - Mitsu TD06-20g |3" Turbo-back Exhaust | 61mm Bored TB |
HP Tuners | Innovate WB02 | Spec Stage 3 | Team Green LSD | TurboTech Upper | Full Addco Sways | Sportlines & Yellows |
My 02 has the HO alcy tables and mine is not flex fuel as far as I know of. Iirc the tables are empty I'll have to check when I get home.
my 01 z also has these alcy tables.
BlackEco wrote:evilmonkitar wrote:BlackEco wrote:evilmonkitar wrote:hmm i see
so that alchy tables arent used eh?
Not unless you have an 02 with the Flex Fuel option.
hmm, think race gas would trigger those tables?
No because there is probably a sensor on the Flex Fuel cars that enables them. Maybe someone with an 02 can confirm this.
There would be a sensor on the fuel line if it has the flex fuel option. All it does is tell the PCM how much alky is in the fuel.
Jon Mick wrote:
i find it amusing that SHOoff has nothing better to do but follow me around & be an unhelpful dick in even cross-forum.
ok i was wrong... the only fields that were empty on mine was the Idle spark advance base (alcohol) the others have info in it...