Basically i'm looking for somebody to tell me what kinda materials to use, and what kinda tricks and tips i can use for shaving parts on my exterior, like the section below the tailights and the part above the door and the rear windshields, and other little things like that.
Also interested in doing my sideskirts and rear bumper, can you guys give me some suggestions on what to get to do this process?
I want to start small and go big, and this will be a good start for me is just to get some ideas of a how-to.
if you were going to do something small...this is how I would do say an antenna.
1. remove all the antenna stuff so you have a hole. then grind till bare metal on the surrounding area
2. make a metal patch to push up against the bottom of the hold
3. weld the patch in and try not to warp the metal with too much heat, but remember you want to get a decent ammount on so you have to do little to no filling. You also can't just weld it. You need to do little tacks so you don't distort the metal.
4. now you need to grind the area again and get the welded area flush
5. apply duraglass
6. sand smooth
7. if close enough you can apply glaze...if not use bondo and then glaze
8. sand again and hopefully it will be smooth now. Remember the primer is also a filler and will help fill in some of the imperfections, but don't expect much from it.
It is extremely hard to explain autobody over the internet. Its something that you learn by doing. This is just a little crappy starter for you. Hopefully it is enough to get you started and I didn't forget anything.
yeah i appreciate the start, mainly i was talking about the areas that dont need welded...i know how that works we did that with my hood (the eyelids)
basically im trying it on my own and will need to know materials i should become familiar with and basically how and when to use them.
are you talking about molding?
i assume you're talking about molding. i wouldnt suggest jumping into something this big. do u know how to fiberglass? have u ever used fillers or duraglss like products? ever used anything like panel bond or icing?
panel bonding is how you start molding
i would just like to know how to mold in those lil filler panels below the tails on an older z24 (95-99)
are those panels metal or plastic? if metal they should be a frickn breeze to do, but if plastic, thats where u expert panel bonding ppl come in hehee
UFlip06 said it best: Just look underneath the engine and if you see big hairy balls it's a 2.4 Twin Cam, if they're shaved it's an Ecotec and if you see nothing it's a 2200!
actually plastic would be better since the bumper is abs plastic. im not sure if they are metal or not but i think they are
i'm pretty sure they're metal plates, so it'd pretty much be the same way~
The pieces below the tail lights are plastic
plastic...i got hit in the back bumper....and they cracked....i had them in my hand....def plastic
yeah i guess you would call it moulding, the prof up here at school called it shaving (which i guess means removing something to give it the appearance of never being there) so the terminology was off a little.
yeah i've done small fiberglassing, but i dont know what the real differences between the materials, like i know what resin is and stuff but maybe more or less tell me what the differences between the jelly and regular, liquid hardener vs cream hardener or the differences between hair or mat and when i would use them, i also heard of like a silicone used to sorta caulk the seams and then glassing over them for more durability.
get a razor, shaving cream, sink and a mirror and u are all set to go there solved your problem lmao
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well....for starters, read up on panel bonding. thats the first step, then duraglassing and a lil glass mat if needed. start reading up on those, then come back with specific questions and ill try and help the best i can.
its tough to learn these things over the net due to mixing techniques and ammts, etc etc
I would not have the part above the rear doors shaved unless you like fixing cracks.
^^^i agree. thats where there is alot of flex in our cars. i personally wouldnt do it
not to mention if u need your glass ever taken out. could pose some issues
alright, i appreciate that, but other than the part above the doors have any other ideas for what to mold? people keep telling me to mold the rear and sides in, but i heard thats not a good idea especially for a DD car.
the sides you'd be ok on. The front, NEVER on a Daily Driver. The rear, its iffy. But if you crack it, you either have to fix it on the car, or grind down all the body work, to get it apart.
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when i see the word "panel bonding" i instantly am thinking of the product panel bond, are you guys talking about making a mold??
this guy is confusing, but i will tell you this metal baf work is not easy and CAN NOT BE TAUGHT ONLINE!!!!
i can`t teach you or tell ya what to use or give ya little tips on fab work this @!#$ is hands on not through a key board
is he talking about doing a 2 door conversion?? is he talking about the d-pillar cover on the 1/4 panle?? shaving that off??
ya know i really think ya need to explain your self more iam really lost here
can i haz bondo
im talking about the pieces on top of the door you dolt. if you dont know what im asking dont respond.
basically all i wanted was just the basics to get me started on this stuff, I HAVE HAD SOME SMALL EXPERIENCE, no huge projects, but i want to work my way up.
if you wanted the pieces under the tails shaved, get a bumper 03+ where the fillers are part of the bumper
i did really consider that, but i cant really get over that bulge that they have (besides i'm not gonna pay all that money for a new bumper when it would cost a tiny fraction to just mold them in)
Are you in the collision program up here at school?
no, i'm just a general studies tard.
i see your car over there all the time, i usually stop and drool over your toyo tails and your rims ya put back on. you wouldn't by chance still have your hood with the eyelids would ya? i'm gettin my swap on and i dont want the extractor hood he has to swap me.
