Most of you guys are going to bash me because you all praise him because he makes “Sunfire Projectors” well I don’t care what he makes and I’m going to tell you all about my experience with Josh, I ordered Sunfire Projectors from him and he said after he receives my stock housings he would start to build my Projectors and they would be done in a week, I don’t even know why he had to wait for my stockers since he built my projectors in someone else’s housings anyway and they were 95-99 housings and I wasn’t happy with that because I sent him my original housings that came with my car a 2000 Sunfire GT the housings from 2000 are a bit different than 95-99 the breather holes seem better in 2000+ housings well that is if you don’t silicone them closed as Josh did, if I sent him a housing from a 2000 Sunfire I expect the same in return, if I wanted the Projectors built in a pre 2000 housing I would go to the Junker and get them and send that to him instead of sending him my original 2000 housings that came with my car, he said that he used my housings for someone else’s build and he used someone else’s housings for my build and since all Projectors are the same he was going to send me my housings instead of the 95-99 ones I said that would be fine, he said it would be a week, well a month and a half went by and finally I received my headlights, well one housing was mine, the other wasn’t because it was cracked on the bottom edge and mine had no cracks unless he cracked it by accident or something and didn’t tell me, but they were both 2000 housings, the lights were of inferior quality the paint was all bubbled and rough there were many runs it looks like he didn’t even bother to sand or prime before he applied the paint they looked horrid, he uses the Nissan FX 35 OEM Projectors for the builds I found out that some of them are clear lens and some of them are a bit hazy, I looked at mine and one is the hazy lens and one is the clear lens, so he didn’t even build my Projectors with a matching pair, the cut-off is a bit sharper on the clear lens than the hazy ones so they will not match not to mention one of the clear lenses that seal the Sunfire housing were cracked, I told him about it and all he said was “if it gets worse let me know” no mention of sending them back for a replacement or anything, the ballasts he sent me are counterfeit Hella’s you can get them on EBay for $20, I confronted him about it and he said that they are real Hella’s made in Germany, he was full of it because I did my research and they are clones they are counterfeit to look like Hella, they are of inferior quality and I do not expect them to last anymore than 3 months, I understand if I want OEM ballasts that its going to cost me, that fine, I’m willing to pay, I’m the type of person that I don’t want the hassle, I rather pay and get no hassle, but he did not offer me that option he just said that they were Hella, then when I received them did I see they are counterfeit aftermarket junk, I will use them till they die, when they die I will purchase real Hella OEM Ballasts and make a plug-and-play harness for them myself, he said these Ballasts have a 1 year warranty, I don’t care, I don’t even want his warranty they will just die again anyway why not get it over with once and for all instead of taking these damn lights out every few months for new crap Ballasts, I was not happy with the lights since they look like they were made by a 7 year old in art class, but I said I minus well put them on the car since I paid for them, so I got to install them to find out that they don’t work properly they only work one at a time if I connect both lights one will rapidly blink and turn itself off, so I spent all day trying everything and following his crappy instructions witch I had to basically guess on my own anyway, I finally got a hold of him just to hear that I need purchase from him a wire harness because my stock wires cannot handle the current, and he couldn’t tell me this before I spent all day horsing around and trying everything and decreasing the life of my HID bulbs and Ballasts by letting them put on a rapid flashing light show? He must of known that it might not work, I think he just needed a gini pig to see if it would work and for how long so if there was no problems he would never have to bother with the harnesses for any customers with J’s, so he put me and my family in danger by telling me to plug and play this to my stock wires, I did some research and on some cars it works just using the stock wires but in the long run they heat up and melt and cause a fire I was just lucky that in J’s the stock wires just do not work for both the lights one cancels out, I specifically asked him “does it come with everything I need” he said “yes” then I asked him “is it plug and play” he said “yes” I asked him this before I placed my order, so I purchased the harness from his web site for almost $100 Canadian, he told me before I purchased this harness that it would be just plug and play, well I get this harness and its hardly plug and play, the connectors for the Bi-Xenon’s (High beams) does not even fit what is on the Projector the two options were cut, strip and solder them but I didn’t like that because if I ever need to remove the lights for any reason I would have to cut the wire or melt the solder, or make a custom made plug-and-play Bi-Xenon (High beam) harness, so that’s what I did, I made my own plug-and-play harness for the high beams, the ring terminals that came with the harness are of inferior quality made of tin like you find on a Coke can and the rings are not even big enough to go around any bolts for the ground or the battery bolt, if you drill them bigger there will be nothing left of it to contact not to mention if you attempted to drill that tin it would just fall apart, so I went and purchased all new good quality ring terminals that are big enough to go on the bolts and that are not made of Coke cans, so I cut the old ones off and put the new ones on, so much for plug-and-play it was a full days work just to get this harness to work for a J-Body, finally when I had it all connected it worked that is until it rained the next day and one of my housings fogged up so bad that you couldn’t even see the projector inside, so I took them off (thank god for my thinking ahead making my plug-and-play high beam harness) and brought both headlights inside left it for a week and it would not un-fog so I had no choice but to take the lens off, so I took the lens off with baby force and they instantly cleared up, when I took the lens off I slightly cracked the corner a bit like an inch, so I figured I should take the other one off too since it came with a crack and jugging from the first one the second one is probably on its way to fogging also, so I took it off also with baby force, they were on there so crappy no wonder they were fogging and water was getting in them, he sealed them like @!#$, so I ordered 2 clear Sunfire lenses from his web site, another $136 Canadian, about an hour later he contacted me telling me that they would be sent out the next day USPS Express it would arrive in 3-4 days, well a week went by and I contacted him by E-Mail and phone so many times that my fingers were getting numb, I left msg after msg and no reply from him, I think he was avoiding me since he didn’t send them out when promised, finally I received my lenses 2 weeks later just to find out one does not fit, its too small, so I contacted him about the lenses and told him I’m going to re-use one of my old ones and ill use one of the new one that does fit and that I would like a refund for the one that does not fit and I would send it back, I mailed him a little over a week ago still no response from him, so now I guess I have to eat the $136 because I’m really hungry, so I have to make this all work out somehow now, I figured since I have both lenses off I minus well fix the crappy paintwork he did, so I went to the auto-body store and purchased all the materials to get them looking professional it cost me about $70 for all the materials, so now they look much better than before not perfect because there is just some corners that’s hard to sand really well but I’m happy with the way they look now, its close to perfect much better than before, a nice smooth glossy finish painted with Duplicolor high gloss black, much more glossy than his crappy paint, so now I have to find a solution for the lenses I’m thinking to re-use my old one the one that came from him with a small stress crack its an internal crack you cannot feel it with your hand on any side of the lens you can just see it in the right light, that side is the side that the new lens does not fit, and the other side that I cracked an inch on top that I glued ill replace that one because the one for that side that he sent me fits, ill keep the glued one just in case I may need it someday, since I’m never going to deal with him ever again, I’m going to seal the lenses with Windshield Urethane not that crappy Silicone he uses that backs off the seams in time due to heat and moisture, I’m also going to seal that small crack on the bottom of the housing with Windshield Urethane, I also unplugged the stock breather hole that he Silicone over in both housings so they will not fog up if water and moisture do find there way in, I doubt it, not with my crazy sealing job I plan to do, but you never know, you have to plan ahead, so that’s my experience with izntrbl I will never deal with him ever again, its been a horrid nightmare these lights are well over a $1000 so far and they are still not on the car and I’m afraid its not going to end there I’m pretty sure I’m going to have to replace the ballasts in the near future so I’m ready for that, its really sad when you pay premium for something and you receive crap and sometimes you pay crap and receive premium its funny how that works, its also sad that I paid for work that I have to do myself anyway, those lights are all my work now the only thing that is still his work is the mounting of the projector in the stock housing that’s it, and I don’t even really know if that’s done right because the light output is worse than my halogens because when he positions the Projectors in the housings the rotation matters for light output, so who knows if there even in there properly, I just like the look that the car has with them, the car looks like it has eyes, if it wasn’t for that I would give up on them already, the light output sucks balls and so does the cut-off, and I aimed them properly, nothing like what you see from cars that come with them or from people that do proper retrofitting, with good OEM parts, so that’s my rant worth a $1000+ for lights and $60 worth of long distance charges to California, Before giving him your money he is great he E-Mails you back every half hour, once he gets the gold mine, forget it, I lost so much time and money with these lights it’s not even funny, I’m pretty sure in the end I’m going to sell them and return back to stock lights, hassle FREE, I will have to buy new ones from the stealer ship for $600 since Josh ruined mine, and I wouldn’t be happy with junkyard ones since there old and yellow, so it would have to be new OEM from GM, oh well live and learn, has anyone had besides me inferior quality from Josh?
Jesus Christ, I didn't even bother reading that.
Thats for all you people too see the BS he put me threw
Okay, I (somehow) read that whole thing and if it's true that sucks.
Since he's in Canada, he has cover the product from manufacturing defects, but now that you've heavily modified them I think the warranty is void.
bradsk88 wrote:Jesus Christ, I didn't even bother reading that.
same here. no paragraphs so it all ran together. ive talked with him several times and he always tells me that it will be a few weeks since he has so many orders. i think you are the only one to complain about him. id like to see pics of yours to see how bad they were before you hacked into them. And for all the kits he has done your the first and only to complain from what ive seen.
hes in USA California, I don't think he wanted to warranty them, I told him about some problems but he didn't offer to replace it he just said if it got worse, it shoulent be there in the first place not after paying with my hard eraned money, of course its true you think I would make this up? that would be a wild imagination, besides I had no lights if he replaced them it would be another 2 months of waiting with no car out on the road and it would be the same if not worse, he didn't even test fit the new lenses
yeah I am the only one to complain, im pretty sure its people that are blinded and don't see the bad quality because they have projectors on a sunfire only place to get them bla bla bla look past that and tell me if the work is good, ill post pics before i haked into them later on
wow dude... nitpicking ftl...
I just talked to josh and he is so backed up on orders he is training people this weekend to help him. Just have patience, josh is a great person and will help you as best he can.
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you know a lot of people have mentioned (not in tpye but in person) that the qualoity isnt that good. and some of the things are true. but to be honest with josh you arent paying all thta money for quality. you are paying for the molding process, lens, bulbs and projectors. thats where he incurs real cost. when i ever get teh money for these imj having him make me the backing plates and clear lense then im gonan assemble it myself. the fact that he assembles it is jsut icing on the cake for those without the tools to do so.
in conlcusion, i still love ya josh
and to the original poster, paragraphs are a must.
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he picked up the phone for you hey? he does not for me, he has my money already and I have his junk, did you pay him yet? I bet you didn't thats why he wants to talk to you
If your not paying for quality, than he must tell you before sale, he should say look these are custom they are not perfect the paint will look @!#$ty you may want to repaint them, he don't say nothing he just raves how great they are, and trust me all the parts come from ebay and from junk yards hes making on these he payed premium once for the molds and now hes just making money those molds are all payed off by now
I had to copy and paste it into a word doc and double space it to read it all.
With that said, I know Josh personally. I hung out at local meets with him and he seemed to be a honest hard working guy. I don't have any experience with his products but from all the pictures I have seen of his products on peoples cars and all the posts that people made about his products it seems like this might have been a one time incident.
Have you told him about all these fixes that you have made and asked for a partial or full refund? From what I understand you havn't told him what you have gone through and asked for a refund.
Anyways, I think Josh will be able to post his side of the story. Lets not jump to conclusions without hearing his side.
Look past thats its a Sunflower with a projector you can get nowhere else in the world, so you want to really put something that looks like its made in art class by a 7 year old on your car and enter it in shows where people will really look at them closely because they are custom and point out everything thats wrong with it, do you really want that? how does that make a person feel after spending a grand?
Fair enough titus03 we will see what he says maybe this will light a fire under his ass and he may actually talk to me
I read halfway and gave up. I'd like to hear Josh's side of the story. The person your describing doesn't seem to care.
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yeah i want to hear his side to, bring him on here, lets see what he has to say
def. doesnt sound like him at all... hes been
very understanding and helpful with me...
full refund ftw!
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^^Yeah really, I dont care how back up on orders someone is.. You lend your services to someone you should give the best quality of work that you can.. Not rushing, or half ass doing the job. (Not saying Josh is doing this, speaking in general)
If your getting that backed up in orders, STOP taking them until you get your ish together... Just like everybody bashed exploited racing back in the day when he kept taking and taking orders and couldnt keep up with it all..
Sucks to hear 1QUICKJ got some messed up lights..
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Doesnt sound like the Josh Ive spoken too. Do you happen to have any pictures of the headlights he sent you?
God damn that was a pain in the ass to read.
I dont see where you asked for a full refund anywhere...
Anyways, give it some time. I mean he obviously is liked for a reason. Sometimes things happen....so we shall see what he has to say and how this turns out...
dam sac you in a very giving mood today ?
i wouldnt have fixed this idiots post , also i wouldnt even give that a grade , id give him a incomplete for the whole semester
even with the great sac mans edited version of your post , i still wont read it
ive sold to josh , and not a problem
For some reason I don't quite believe your side of the story. I bought the stuff to build my projectors from Josh, and I was one of the first to build 03+ projectors. It's hard work. Josh always answered his phone. I had issues with some stuff and he sent me other things at a discounted rate. I seriously doubt your projectors were costing over a grand. Last set I saw about that price had full Hellas and he did a custom job for w00tburgers. I'm waving the BS flag here.
Josh is a great guy, he also goes WAY out of his way to help people, even asshats. My guess is you somehow pushed him way too far.
You are the ONLY person to have a problem with him. Sucks to be you, but everyone else is alright.
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