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Beware Ebay Seller Pat.Weller
Sunday, August 31, 2008 4:14 PM
I recently won an auction for a oem erebruni cf hood. Original listing, as you can see I won the item for around $210. Granted I was thinking of picking it up. So the person sends me a email right after I won the item, telling me the item was sold and that he would refund my money if I paid through paypal. Well I didn't pay because of that email, a dispute was filed and basically saying it was a mutual agreement on the product for the reason of item being sold. Even though I really wanted the OEM CF hood I figured I would trust the person and let it slide.

I check again today for cf parts for the bubbamobile, and what do you know the same listing is back up for sale.New Listing. I figured I let everyone know not to do business with this person.


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Re: Beware Ebay Seller Pat.Weller
Sunday, August 31, 2008 4:32 PM
Bubba wrote:I check again today for cf parts for the bubbamobile, and what do you know the same listing is back up for sale.New Listing. I figured I let everyone know not to do business with this person.


did you bring that to eBay's attention?

you could go after him legally considering an ebay auction is a binding contract.




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Re: Beware Ebay Seller Pat.Weller
Sunday, August 31, 2008 4:40 PM
Yep.

If he didn't get the price he wanted, he should really have put a reserve on it.... and that's not your fault.

I'd bring that to ebay's attention.





Re: Beware Ebay Seller Pat.Weller
Sunday, August 31, 2008 4:51 PM
Yep I would do that also!




Re: Beware Ebay Seller Pat.Weller
Sunday, August 31, 2008 5:54 PM
I sent ebay 2 emails today hopefully I get a response this week. I even spoke to a rep online but all he could do is direct me to email ebay. If ebay says he has to give me the item that'll be great a new winter hood


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Re: Beware Ebay Seller Pat.Weller
Monday, September 01, 2008 7:09 AM
Looks like he's taken the new auction down now, probably ebay's gotten ahold of him. Has he gotten ahold of you? I'd be threatening to take him to court, especially since he's already left you positive feedback :p


Re: Beware Ebay Seller Pat.Weller
Monday, September 01, 2008 9:32 AM
I sent him a message last night and have yet to hear back from him.


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Re: Beware Ebay Seller Pat.Weller
Monday, September 01, 2008 12:03 PM
Do you know exactly where in Baltimore he's at? I live right around here, dont know how I missed the auction lol.



Re: Beware Ebay Seller Pat.Weller
Monday, September 01, 2008 12:25 PM
nah this is all the info I have on this person


Patrick Weller
Baltimore, MD 21234

the zip code puts it at Parkville though.


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Re: Beware Ebay Seller Pat.Weller
Monday, September 01, 2008 12:49 PM
Oh ok, I saw the guy trying to sell the hood on clubcav about a month ago for like $300 I think. I saw pics that he took in front of a chevy dealer, pretty much right off I-695 in the parkville area.

Im pretty sure this is the same guy...
http://www.clubcav.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16796



Re: Beware Ebay Seller Pat.Weller
Monday, September 01, 2008 5:09 PM
that blows. let us know how it goes.





Re: Beware Ebay Seller Pat.Weller
Tuesday, September 02, 2008 11:08 AM
yeah, ebay is a legally binding contract.


even if he had sold it locally.......you could have charges filed against him. at least an ebay strike.





Re: Beware Ebay Seller Pat.Weller
Friday, September 05, 2008 8:47 AM
21234?

That's my old zip out in the Parkville, Perry Hwy area.

I'll research.

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Re: Beware Ebay Seller Pat.Weller
Monday, September 08, 2008 8:28 AM
well any updates?

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Re: Beware Ebay Seller Pat.Weller
Monday, September 08, 2008 1:07 PM
No updates from ebay or the seller. I dont know what is going on


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Re: Beware Ebay Seller Pat.Weller
Wednesday, September 10, 2008 8:47 PM
Update for all my people....

I got a email today after I left negative feedback on this douche. Instead of me summarizing it, heres a gander that you can laugh at ....

Quote:

Dear burningacesdesigns,

Thanks for leaving me negative feedback which was totally uncalled for. I told you that I strongly apologized for what had happened with the auction with the hood. I had told you AS SOON AS THE AUCTION ENDED to NOT to send any money, which you didn't. If anything I helped YOU out by not wasting your time sending money for something I was no longer willing to sell on eBay. I actually had a sale pending locally that's why I didn't sell the hood to you. The local sale fell through and the guy didn't want it anymore. I was actually going to contact you and continue the transaction and sell you the hood since the local sale fell through. But since you left me negative feedback, I now completely refuse to sell you the hood because of what you have done to my 100% perfect feedback. Thanks for ruining my feedback score. It was very immature to do something like that. You need to grow up.

- pat.weller


He made me laugh so I sent him a response... I would've told him he was black listed on JBO but I ran out of room typing.

Quote:

Dear pat.weller,

I left you a messages on ebay concerning the hood, after you relisted it. The message was sent a few seconds after I saw your second listing on ebay which was then cancelled. So you had over 10 days to contact me about the hood. So when did you plan to contact me about purchasing it?
I accepted that it was sold the first time hence why, when you sent the dispute item on ebay I didn't hold it against you and planned on giving you positive feedback. But as soon as I saw 3 days after we went through the dispute factor, your item all of a sudden was listed again. If I really wanted to, I could file a lawsuit against you for voiding a ebay purchase under false pretenses. You had between Aug 27 and Aug 31 to contact me about the hood not being sold, and that I could pay for it. It is now the Sept 10, so I doubt your statement of "I was going to contact you". You got caught by ebay and then I had to leave negative feedback which was the first time I had to do so in all my years using ebay.

- burningacesdesigns



Then I get this response....


Quote:

Dear burningacesdesigns,

Don't threaten me with lawsuits. You can't do anything to me because you never sent me any money. That's all eBay is worried about. I don't have to sell you anything if you never paid me. Try your attitude with someone else. What are you going to "sue" me for? The money you NEVER paid me? Please. Grow up.

- pat.weller


My response to that

Quote:

Actually your listing, in which I won and was told not to pay for, is still a binding contract. I already spoke to ebay about it and they have it on record. They to told me not to pay you and that you would be under investigation in the coming weeks for fraudulent activity. See once you told me it was sold, and to not pay, you could've gotten away with it. But once you relisted the same item which is still technically sold to me. I can actually sue you for that item. I am very certain a court would agree to that. And another thing your feedback that you gave me gives me proof of your motives. You scammed ebay to get out of listing fees, and tried to relist the item in order to get more money. You never planned on contacting me about the hood you figured you would get off free. Learn the laws of selling things in a auction. Your dispute that you filed can be reopened and placed in my favor as well. Also I can pay for it right now and you would have to send it me as described.








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Re: Beware Ebay Seller Pat.Weller
Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:08 PM
My response would have been...

"You voided a binding contract, screw your feedback score."




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Re: Beware Ebay Seller Pat.Weller
Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:47 PM
the douche listed the item again and I reported him to ebay yet again. I hope ebay boots him from there site, and I think its time i go to clubcav and raise a little noise about this guy.


What a idiot

If your a member on any other cav/ j-body forums this douche may go on spread the word that he is a scammer. Thanks


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Re: Beware Ebay Seller Pat.Weller
Thursday, September 11, 2008 6:35 AM
i think .org members should keep "buying" the hood at low prices, then not pay for it. then when he contacts ebay, we can keep saying the same thing: that he refused to sell the item because it had sold "locally" but that we all think that it just didnt sell for enough and hes lying about the local sale. after a few of those strikes against him, he'll get the boot




Re: Beware Ebay Seller Pat.Weller
Thursday, September 11, 2008 7:43 AM
I already told everyone on clubcav. They think the guy is a @!#$ faggot lol.....

And if you look at his nice little auction I believe Ebay just pulled that @!#$ down again . He pissed off the wrong person and now he is getting @!#$ badly.


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Re: Beware Ebay Seller Pat.Weller
Thursday, September 11, 2008 7:49 AM
sweet.....


stick it to him.

I hate people that try to rip people off.

Thats why they have a reserve auction, this seller is def. shady. Hope you get your hood, and for the correct price, and hope he doesnt break it in half before you get there to pick it up....






Re: Beware Ebay Seller Pat.Weller
Thursday, September 11, 2008 7:53 AM
John if he does break the hood, I get to keep my money and he is @!#$. I havent heard @!#$ back from him at all since I verbally raped him about the dynamics of selling @!#$ on ebay. Im expecting a few emails today though lets see what happens... I'll keep everyone informed as well...


O and John I did get your pm just forgot to respond which I'll do so now


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Re: Beware Ebay Seller Pat.Weller
Thursday, September 11, 2008 8:55 AM
what a douche-bag
Re: Beware Ebay Seller Pat.Weller
Thursday, September 11, 2008 12:47 PM
Sooo is the hood still for sale??

Sorry to hear all this @!#$ man, hope you get it all straightened out and you get the hood. He's not far from me at all if you'd like me to go have a talk with him hahaha.



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