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Cylinder #2 missfire 05 Eco
Thursday, October 29, 2009 2:45 PM
Hey guys I am running into a problem here with my 05 eco, Just rolled over to 94,000 miles.

Lately It has been misfiring in cylinder # 2. I forget the code number. **It also only does this when the engine is warm.**

So I left the old plugs in ran some sea foam through it. Followed the instructions. Didn't seem to do anything.

Next I bought new plugs, ( AC Delco's) double checked the gaps, still miss fires.

Busted out my Haynes, decided to check the Ohms on the injectors, the book says they should be between 11-14 Ohms.
All the injectors read between 13.0-13.2 Ohms.

Yesterday I replaced my coil pack, runs a bit smoother, but still missfires when it gets warm.

I'm not sure what it could be, ICM, Timing chain,?
My dad and I plan on doing a compression check this weekend.


Anyone have any Suggestions?


Thanks!



Lanman31337 -F = fatties = do not want. A little chunk in the junk is ok though.


Re: Cylinder #2 missfire 05 Eco
Friday, October 30, 2009 8:39 AM
anyone/?



Lanman31337 -F = fatties = do not want. A little chunk in the junk is ok though.

Re: Cylinder #2 missfire 05 Eco
Friday, October 30, 2009 11:59 AM
It could be the timing chain...


How long before it starts doing it?



Re: Cylinder #2 missfire 05 Eco
Friday, October 30, 2009 12:13 PM
ICM's seem to be the biggest cause of phantom misfires on eco's.
Re: Cylinder #2 missfire 05 Eco
Friday, October 30, 2009 5:17 PM
It takes anywhere from 5 to 15 minutes before it missfire's, depends which way towards town I take. This is after teh car is almost all the way warmed up.



Lanman31337 -F = fatties = do not want. A little chunk in the junk is ok though.

Re: Cylinder #2 missfire 05 Eco
Saturday, October 31, 2009 5:05 PM
Do a compression test, a sticking valve will cause that


- 2004 Cavalier - 124k, owned since new



Re: Cylinder #2 missfire 05 Eco
Saturday, October 31, 2009 7:11 PM
Rob, thanks my dad and I are going to do a compression test in the morning, he brought his tools home from work this morning!



Lanman31337 -F = fatties = do not want. A little chunk in the junk is ok though.

Re: Cylinder #2 missfire 05 Eco
Sunday, November 01, 2009 7:34 AM
Let me know what you find out. My 2.4 is doing the same thing. some times it runs good, like when i first start it. But after it warms, it will run like @!#$. It's thriowing codes, i checked it out and the only code i get is misfire in cylinder 2
Re: Cylinder #2 missfire 05 Eco
Sunday, November 01, 2009 12:51 PM
Did a compression check, everything is perfectly fine there.
Ordered a new ICM, picking it up in the morning.



Lanman31337 -F = fatties = do not want. A little chunk in the junk is ok though.

Re: Cylinder #2 missfire 05 Eco
Monday, November 02, 2009 8:10 PM
Put in a new ICM today now it seems every other time i drive the car it missfires.

Bad cat, bad injectors, PCV valve, EGR valve?



Lanman31337 -F = fatties = do not want. A little chunk in the junk is ok though.

Re: Cylinder #2 missfire 05 Eco
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 3:56 AM
Wrong Turn wrote:Put in a new ICM today now it seems every other time i drive the car it missfires.

Bad cat, bad injectors, PCV valve, EGR valve?



Only on number #2 still

Could be a injector sticking open/closed

Our cars dont have EGRs, and a PCV valve doesnt cause a misfire


- 2004 Cavalier - 124k, owned since new




Re: Cylinder #2 missfire 05 Eco
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 2:06 PM
Could be the fuel pump going out.



Re: Cylinder #2 missfire 05 Eco
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:05 PM
Rob wrote:
Wrong Turn wrote:Put in a new ICM today now it seems every other time i drive the car it missfires.

Bad cat, bad injectors, PCV valve, EGR valve?



Only on number #2 still

Could be a injector sticking open/closed

Our cars dont have EGRs, and a PCV valve doesnt cause a misfire


I'm going to have it scanned again tomorrow. Is there any specific way to clean them, also I checked the Ohms and everything was reading at 13.0-13.1 ohms.



SLO CAV (the autoxing one) wrote:Could be the fuel pump going out.


How would I check to see if it's going out? I never let the gas tank go below 1/4 of a tank. Also when I step on the gas slightly it goes away slightly. only really happens when it's idleing



Lanman31337 -F = fatties = do not want. A little chunk in the junk is ok though.

Re: Cylinder #2 missfire 05 Eco
Wednesday, November 04, 2009 4:14 AM
SLO CAV (the autoxing one) wrote:Could be the fuel pump going out.


No it wouldnt, a misfire on one cylinder is not an indication whatsoever of a fuel pump failing


- 2004 Cavalier - 124k, owned since new



Re: Cylinder #2 missfire 05 Eco
Wednesday, November 04, 2009 4:37 PM
This happened to me on my 2.4 the plastic housing the coil packs are in was cracked and I replaced it and my miss went away.
The miss was always the same cylinder.
New plugs, new coil, new injector, nothing then i replaced the coil housing and it cleared up immediately.
Re: Cylinder #2 missfire 05 Eco
Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:37 AM
bump
I'm curious to find out what fixed it.
Re: Cylinder #2 missfire 05 Eco
Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:50 AM
move your injectors around see if the misfire follows the bad injector. mark it with a marker or something so you can keep track of which injector was on #2.





Re: Cylinder #2 missfire 05 Eco
Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:59 AM
Pj I was thinking about doing that exactly this weekend, thanks!
. Haven't driven the car in a week, been taking the bike to work while I can to save on gas.



Lanman31337 -F = fatties = do not want. A little chunk in the junk is ok though.

Re: Cylinder #2 missfire 05 Eco
Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:05 PM
if the misfire is only on #2 cyl its gotta be something to do only with that cyl, EX: spark or fuel if comp is good those are really the only 2 you got left to look at, so throw a spark tester on it next, if spark is good look @ the injector
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