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Acetone in gas... improved mileage?
Monday, March 28, 2005 7:03 AM
ok.. I'm not sure where to post this, so mods move it wherever you see fit..

anyway, I was googling a bunch of stuff and came across this: Acetone in gas

and this: clicky clicky

I'm considering trying this. The science behind it seems failry solid, and having worked with acetone a lot(Aircraft technician), I know many of its propeties, such as a very clean burn, so I don't think it'll harm anything.

I don't expect it to be as great as what the article claims(25%+), but any little bit helps, right? especially when I can get it for free.

what does everyone else think? I'm thinking right now that I'll try it in my snowmobile first, just to be safe.




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Re: Acetone in gas... improved mileage?
Monday, March 28, 2005 10:23 AM
Let me know after you try it Also don't forget, don't spill any of it on your paint, and I wouldn't think that the acetone would be to good on seals and gaskets inside your engine.



Re: Acetone in gas... improved mileage?
Monday, March 28, 2005 10:28 AM
yeah I'll jeep everyone posted.. and believe me, I know what it can do to paint.

as for gaskets and seals, shouldn't be a problem; the only thing it'll eat through is certain plastics.




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Re: Acetone in gas... improved mileage?
Monday, March 28, 2005 4:27 PM
Please do keep us updated.

What exactly are you using?


 
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Re: Acetone in gas... improved mileage?
Monday, March 28, 2005 7:18 PM
just pure acetone.. the main ingredient in most nail polish removers; and available commercially in the same type of containers turpentine comes in. I'll be getting it ffrom school, however; it's the same stuff, just free




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Re: Acetone in gas... improved mileage?
Monday, March 28, 2005 7:57 PM
id be scared to do that


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Re: Acetone in gas... improved mileage?
Tuesday, March 29, 2005 5:42 AM
that's why I'm going to try it in a snowmobile first.




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Re: Acetone in gas... improved mileage?
Tuesday, March 29, 2005 6:44 AM
I'm gonna try it when I'll be back in town on Thursday, I got a 03 Cavy with man. tranny. I'm not afraid at all since 1) acetone burns just as easily as gaz, and if it burns... your motor will work, and 2) 1/5000 ratio of acetone/gas really is nothing at all.

In fact, I can't wait to try it I been gettin piss-poor gas mileage in my car for the past 5-6 tanks ( about 400-475km, about 250-300miles).They replaced the Evap solenoid, now I got 275km out of 20liters which is almost back to normal, makes for about 7.8l/100km. I drive A LOT ( 50,000km per year ) so as Craig said, any little bit helps.

Thanks,

G
Re: Acetone in gas... improved mileage?
Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:04 AM
I sincerely doubt that you'll see any difference at all, performance wise. I'd just be worried about all the seals & gaskets especially with the injectors and how the chemical will react with the materials in the fuel pump/filter/lines/connections. Remember that Acetone is classified as a solvent.

The only thing acetone is good for is extracting Salvinorin-A.


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Re: Acetone in gas... improved mileage?
Tuesday, March 29, 2005 4:00 PM
I once grabbed the wrong can in my shop and filled my lawn mower up with it lol. It ran better I guess, It was a push mower so you can't really tell. Be careful though, I would think it would burn hot so you might cook your valves.


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Re: Acetone in gas... improved mileage?
Tuesday, March 29, 2005 5:31 PM
gasoline is a solvent. just as acetone.. acetone is pure( vs gas isn't my brother has done this for years (3 i think) he has a 2001 escalade(sp) he adds it every tank till this day no gaskets, valves, sensors have went goofy that car has never been in the shop! and it has well over 190,000 miles on it (hes a curator for a major zoo). Ive done it a few times it did get better mileage why not add it? esp at these amounts.
be no diff from crappy gas if it didnt work


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Re: Acetone in gas... improved mileage?
Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:03 PM
The quantity involved won't harm anything. It's no worst than forgetting to change your oil for 3100 miles instead of 3000. If it would be a 1 to 4 ratio, then I would say, watch out for those plastic lines from the pump to the filter but that isn't the case...



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Re: Acetone in gas... improved mileage?
Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:54 AM
most plastics are ok with acetone.. as is rubber, and all metals.

I work with this stuff every day; I know what it's like. My concern would be sensors and the like. I have no fears at all with the snowmobile, as it's carbed and has absolutely no sensors.




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Re: Acetone in gas... improved mileage?
Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:57 AM
Hey craig, what snowmobile do u got? I have a 05 RX-1, and the season is over since last monday ( if no snowstorm happens soon ), I'm in Quebec City. I would have been more scared to run this into my snowmobile than in my car since it runs 10,500 RPM while I rarely go over 4,500-5000 in my car.


Thanks,

G
Re: Acetone in gas... improved mileage?
Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:08 PM
well, we just got hammered with 60+ cm's... not a problem!

my machihne is nothing special... 91 Jag mountain cat! It's ghetto, but I love it. Really good in deep powder.

My sister's boyfriend has an 800 polaris(touring) which I can have whenever I want; nothing special, but quite a bit quicker than the 340.

as for the rpm's; seeing how it rarely tops 8000, and the compression ratio is around 6.5:1, I'm not too concerned!




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Re: Acetone in gas... improved mileage?
Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:06 AM
Well i added some acetone we will see how it works out. There are a number of website on doing this even showing how much to add. They say about 3-oz per 10-gallons. One site showed a table that is you added to much it will not help you.


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Re: Acetone in gas... improved mileage?
Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:01 PM
craig steele wrote:most plastics are ok with acetone.. as is rubber, and all metals.

I work with this stuff every day; I know what it's like. My concern would be sensors and the like. I have no fears at all with the snowmobile, as it's carbed and has absolutely no sensors.


depends on what rubbers it is you are working with, some rubbers have different compounds etc in them that are resistant to different things, take an o-ring off of a block heater for instance, simple engine oil will eat at the rubber gasket. the acetone will most likely overtime harm something in the system but it would be hard to tell what/when


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Re: Acetone in gas... improved mileage?
Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:50 PM
Im trying it in my car right now.

So far 8 oz to 10 gallons. Better, smoother idle, and about a 5% better mileage.




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Re: Acetone in gas... improved mileage?
Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:09 PM
it's gotta be something like 140 octane (totally exagerating). i'd imagine using high amounts of it like one gallon to five gallons of gas would eventually burn up the exhaust valves since it burns so slow. but that would most likely be after say ten thousand miles.
Re: Acetone in gas... improved mileage?
Friday, April 01, 2005 5:00 AM
So far so good. I saw a website that did some research and they had a graph that showed the optimal amount is about 3-4oz per 10 gallons. I think that 8oz may be to much from what i have been reading. One site even said that to much can hurt gas mileage.


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Re: Acetone in gas... improved mileage?
Friday, April 01, 2005 8:23 AM
Alright, just put 4oz in 12gallons, my tank was almost bone dry. I haven't even started it yet, but I have to drive 100km today (60miles), I'll see how it goes.

I paid 5,50$CAD for 18oz I think, of acetone. Dunno if it's 100% pure, but it looks like it is.

Also be VERY CAREFUL when manipulating it, keep it away from your NOSE!! Serious here, somebody I know has completely lost the sense of smell becaues of acetone, he was working a lot with it.


Thanks,

G

Re: Acetone in gas... improved mileage?
Saturday, April 02, 2005 1:09 PM
Gotta keep this on top, important experiment going on.




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Re: Acetone in gas... improved mileage?
Saturday, April 02, 2005 1:25 PM
^^^^ yup, totally right. I currently have almost 200kms and I'm not even at the 3/4 mark on my 03 Eco, manual tranny. This is 90% normal driving with one race with a 2000 camaro from a running start.

Pretty good


Thanks,

G
Re: Acetone in gas... improved mileage?
Saturday, April 02, 2005 4:38 PM
Quote:

it's gotta be something like 140 octane


think so? put a match near it, and see just how high it's flashpoint is...

I still havn't tried it, because the 60cm's they were calling for turned into 90 - 100 cm's of heavy wet snow, and the jag is under a 4 foot drift... maybe I'll go ahead and use it in the car!




"i promise we won't get drunk, and go out in boat in the dark, stand up in the boat and fire the gun into the air unless we have life jackets on."
Re: Acetone in gas... improved mileage?
Saturday, April 02, 2005 6:37 PM
Here's from someone with 50 years experience with acetone as an additive :

http://www.lubedev.com/smartgas/additive.htm
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