what are some good sites for automotive laws. like anything as far for neon lights etc.
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if its for underbody lights in CA. There legal.
ic an many sources i have ive bet to court alot and enver lost. Most likely they write you up for VC.24003 which is wrong to begin with. Thats just if its for underbodies.. but you can check out dmv.ca.gov for all the codes
well i have heard that underbody lighting is legal as long as the lights are not red or blue and also as long if the neon or led tube doesnt show. is this true?? because i couldnt find anything on the site.
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I thought neon lights werent legal while driving at all... no matter which color.
Nope! got a ticket for having green underbody neon. But it's only a fixit ticket which here in stockton is only $10.00. P.S I never removed the lights just told them I did and they wrote me off.
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neon lights are LEGAL IF
the bulbs are HIDDEN only a glow
can be ANY COLOR but not RED only to the front
no where in the book does it say blue is a police color.
you will find many cops dont even know the laws they just write the BS tickets. im not sayig you wont get a ticket but there NOT illegal
Show me where it says it's legal to have underbody neon. I want to add some to my 04' and if you show me than I can show the cop your argument.
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Eviltec Art wrote:Show me where it says it's legal to have underbody neon. I want to add some to my 04' and if you show me than I can show the cop your argument.
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Sal Medina wrote:Eviltec Art wrote:Show me where it says it's legal to have underbody neon. I want to add some to my 04' and if you show me than I can show the cop your argument.
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Im gonna order some as soon as I get some cash.
if you ever get pulled over they will wirte you up for VC24003 99% of the time which is the wrong code to begin with and can be dismissed if you make an apearence in court.
an interview with a CHP officer that says there LEGAL >>download =
http://www.autoi.com/images/shoppingcart-images/KCBS-talk-about-neon.mp3
California Vehicle Codes
"It's cool but is it LEGAL?"
Fact's you should know.....
California vehicle codes web site
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/vc/vctoc.htm. Below are a few codes that deal with vehicle lighting.
24003 cvc :This is a code that most officers use as a catch all code (read carefully as your ticket may be written incorrectly). This code is for interior lighting. We have asked some officers to read the code, not just go by what they have been told, and they were surprised... as you will be too....
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc24003.htm
25400 cvc.: This code is where NEON lighting under your vehicle is LEGAL to drive with. Please keep in mind that you can not have the color red and your tubes must be hidden. You may only have the glow effect. We install every neon kit to conform to this code.
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc25400.htm
25106 cvc.: This code states that you may have white OR yellow (amber) lights/reflectors to the front of your vehicle.
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc25106.htm
25950 cvc : This code allows you to have white or yellow (amber) to the front of your vehicle, so clear corners are legal. Also under 25950(c) you can have a bulb of any unlighted color, as long as it lights up amber or white. So if you have a colored unlighted bulb, but it lights up white or amber your legal.
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc25950.htm
Typical assumptions people make about vehicle lighting.
Assumption - I know you can't have red facing forward or blue facing front or back.
FACT - A lot of officers are told that blue is their color, but when researching the vehicle code book, they have not been able to give a code number nor have we found a vehicle code that states blue is a police color, so they may be misinformed. Keep in mind it has to be in the vehicle code book to be a law... They just use it and everyone thinks that it is a police color... The vehicle code does state that only emergency vehicles may have RED facing the front. There is no mention of the color blue.
Assumption - Green is questionable since it is a Traffic Control Device color.
FACT - Just because a color is used on a traffic light doesn't mean it can't be used... look at RED or AMBER. Those are traffic light colors and are on all vehicles. There is nothing stating that green cannot be on a vehicle. RED cannot be used in the front but is perfectly legal on the sides and back when mounted correctly.
Assumption - I was actually pulled over by CHP for blue neon on my buddies car, then they went over the entire thing saying the whole car is illegal.
FACT - If your buddy had his tubes showing then it would be illegal. If they were installed properly then they would be legal
Assumption - Officers can be quite annoying at times.
FACT - They are doing a job and they just do what they are told..... Neon is legal and like most people, even officers skim through the code book..... Details are the important thing.... If you read 25400 you will see what we are talking about.... Also we can almost bet that if the code you were written up on was 24003 and if you READ that code it's for interior lighting... Most officers think of it as a catch all code....
We've been working with automotive lighting for over 18 years and deal with this kind of stuff everyday..... It's education for both the public and the officers a like. Soon you we see that every one will know the truth and the law.
(Laws in other states may vary)
