Who has experience with this unit? I hooked it up to my '99 z24 and it caused my engine to stall and transmission to shift rough. It seemed to work ok at full throttle, but at idle was very rough and unstable. I returned it and got a replacement from JET Performance. The same thing happened with the new unit. The engine light came on as well. So now I keep it turned off and the car runs smooth even though the the unit is still wired in. I'm wondering if I need a stronger iginition or better power cable or perhaps the circuit fuse I am using is faulty? I have it tapped into the cruise control in the fuse box. Any ideas?
Maybe not the best, but at least it's American.
I'll quote the Performance FAQ
Performance FAQ wrote:Jet Chip Performance Control Module (PCM): ok a lot of you believe in it, but it’s the same thing as the TPS TEC and Venom 400. you can also do the same thing with your foot. I wont get TOO in depth on this, but it’s a waste of 100 used, or 200+ dollars new. Karo, dynoed this beast of a faux mod and gained like 1.3 or 1.5 whopping HP. Aka, for the price, you could have done better. But like said above it’s the same as pressing harder on the gas. To read more about it in depth, I’ll refer you to the JBO main library listing for it. http://www.j-body.org/faq/10/20/
that should also cover the TPS TECs and VENOMS as well.
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nasty04cav wrote:But at WOT is has to be giving you more fuel than normal right??
Nope...
Quote:
However, it is important to remember that MAP and TPS inputs only affect PCM decisions during partial throttle driving. Once MAP and TPS signals reach voltage levels that indicate full-throttle, the PCM begins ignoring these input signals and resorts to open loop operation - at which point, additional voltage from MAP and TPS sensors will not affect fuel response. In other words, the Venom 400 claims to function only under partial throttle conditions.
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if I didnt have work I drop 8 but oh well.
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boobs now with Riboflabin"
cars are getting smarter, they can tell when you add crap products
if you are gonna get ANY venom products, atleast shoot for the injectors which give 10% more fuel, and you know you get it at all times.... rather than buy gimmick crap.
I'm Not talking about venom. I would like reviews on personal experiences on the JET Control Module for z24 auto, Not hear say.
Maybe not the best, but at least it's American.
It doesn't work, plain and simple. Our OBD-II computers can't be chipped so, in essence, you've been ripped off.
Also, fill out your profile. It'll be alot easier for us in the future to help you out.
Blown.
what was posted is not hear say.
Karo as stated above only Dynoed 1.5 HP with that thing. That is why he does not sell it. He wanted to test it before he sold it. He made a post about it. Others have posted about it as well. It is not hear say.
Anyone who has told you it works tell them to Dyno it. I have been on a Neon site and it is the same story someone DYnoed it with the same results.
2004 Grand Prix GTP (Competition Group)
SOLD-->1999 Z24 5M-#30 to register on JBO
"You can please some of the people some of the time but you can't please all the people'
all the time
Filip (The Polish Kid) wrote:It doesn't work, plain and simple. Our OBD-II computers can't be chipped so, in essence, you've been ripped off.
Also, fill out your profile. It'll be alot easier for us in the future to help you out.
I think people need to be a little more careful and a lot more hopeful becuase obd 2's can be chiped but havent yet.
ok go about your business.
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boobs now with Riboflabin"
Jcavi wrote:Filip (The Polish Kid) wrote:It doesn't work, plain and simple. Our OBD-II computers can't be chipped so, in essence, you've been ripped off.
Also, fill out your profile. It'll be alot easier for us in the future to help you out.
I think people need to be a little more careful and a lot more hopeful becuase obd 2's can be chiped but havent yet. ok go about your business.
He was refering to our OBDII computers.
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I get the message. Thanks.
Maybe not the best, but at least it's American.
NJHK (The JBO Negro) wrote:Jcavi wrote:Filip (The Polish Kid) wrote:It doesn't work, plain and simple. Our OBD-II computers can't be chipped so, in essence, you've been ripped off.
Also, fill out your profile. It'll be alot easier for us in the future to help you out.
I think people need to be a little more careful and a lot more hopeful becuase obd 2's can be chiped but havent yet. ok go about your business.
He was refering to our OBDII computers.
Hence the "Our" at the beginning of that sentence, haha.
Blown.
Filip (The Polish Kid) wrote:NJHK (The JBO Negro) wrote:Jcavi wrote:Filip (The Polish Kid) wrote:It doesn't work, plain and simple. Our OBD-II computers can't be chipped so, in essence, you've been ripped off.
Also, fill out your profile. It'll be alot easier for us in the future to help you out.
I think people need to be a little more careful and a lot more hopeful becuase obd 2's can be chiped but havent yet. ok go about your business.
He was refering to our OBDII computers.
Hence the "Our" at the beginning of that sentence, haha.
right Thats what Im talking about our computers can be chipped hence HP tunerz they havent yet but hopefully the soon will.
I think its a better thing to say since people can keep that open as an option. it might not be for now or even soon but some day.
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boobs now with Riboflabin"
Jcavi wrote:Filip (The Polish Kid) wrote:NJHK (The JBO Negro) wrote:Jcavi wrote:Filip (The Polish Kid) wrote:It doesn't work, plain and simple. Our OBD-II computers can't be chipped so, in essence, you've been ripped off.
Also, fill out your profile. It'll be alot easier for us in the future to help you out.
I think people need to be a little more careful and a lot more hopeful becuase obd 2's can be chiped but havent yet. ok go about your business.
He was refering to our OBDII computers.
Hence the "Our" at the beginning of that sentence, haha.
right Thats what Im talking about our computers can be chipped hence HP tunerz they havent yet but hopefully the soon will.
I think its a better thing to say since people can keep that open as an option. it might not be for now or even soon but some day.
It's really a technicality. Anything is possible but it's done, we gotta sort of say that you can't chip it or atleast chip it with any product out there like Jet Chips, Venom 400 and of that nature.
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Why not have the car dyno tuned with SCT software. That would maybe make a difference of a few hp. Chips suck plain and simple. You'd need someone to tune the computer with a computer such as a laptop and the software to do it. For Fords there is SCT, Diablo Sport, and a few other companies. Even hypertech offers OBD II tuners. Basically a chip is useless since it just advances timing and fuel a little. Big deal, it has no idea what your air fuel ratio looks like or what kind of fuel you are running.
If you were gonna advance the timing you'd have to run premium fuel in case of detonation. I don't know if these motors have knock sensors and if they don't well the computer won't know when to back off the timing if you get into detonation which could be bad for the engine. Now being naturally aspirated you run less risk than someone with a turbo if they got a tank of bad gas or something.
If you are serious about tuning your car and have enough mods to make it worth your time (i'm not talking an intake and an exhaust here) then you should get a wide band air/fuel monitor and those are about 5-600 bucks. Then it would be nice to get a tuner that also datalogs. Then you can see what is going on with the car on the street and at the track and use that info to make further adjustments. I don't know what tuning software is out there for the 2.2, 2.4, and ecotec, but I figure if someone is going to come out with it the eco guys with get it first since those motors are actually being supercharged, turbocharged, built up and raced at a more mainstream level.
Scott
2002 Audi S4, black
1996 Z24 auto, red
\begin rant
I have a weird feeling these things work but only work with other things on top of it:
Jet Module
Venom 400 Module
And those TB spacers
I have no proof nor am I saying on my word they do work, I just can't see why a company would put all that R&d into a product for it to do absolutely nothing at all. If they saw it did nothing on certain cars why produce it. And no they didn't make it to get rich off of retarded kids, there's not enough of those types to make profit over how much those companies have to hold in stock.
/rant done
N2O + Bolt-ons
= 220Hp/
250Tq
Coming Soon:HpTunersPro, EagleConnectingRods, WiescoPistons, 13sec2200
What HP tuner is doing is not a chip it is almost a reprogram. Most of the OBD IIdon't have a "chip" they can be reflashed.
2004 Grand Prix GTP (Competition Group)
SOLD-->1999 Z24 5M-#30 to register on JBO
"You can please some of the people some of the time but you can't please all the people'
all the time
