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Re: New eco header?
Sunday, May 17, 2009 1:55 PM
thats the one ive bene eyeing for a little over a month now its the one im ordering for sure, they have one that fits right up to the l61.

for $214 shipped/



Re: New eco header?
Sunday, May 17, 2009 2:06 PM
Short tube huh? Nice lil gig there, not for top end but should improve low end quite well.



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Re: New eco header?
Sunday, May 17, 2009 4:01 PM
been around a long time. knock off of the DC sports header

my thing is.. unless you're retaining the stock downpipe, why bother?
but on that note, a 3" collector breathing into a 1.75" or 2" downpipe doesn't sound very smart to me.






Re: New eco header?
Sunday, May 17, 2009 4:46 PM
Be much easier to install then the tsudo though, hahahahaha



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Re: New eco header?
Sunday, May 17, 2009 5:24 PM
I was thinking about getting a cobalt downpipe and modding it if I were to do it.



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Re: New eco header?
Sunday, May 17, 2009 9:22 PM
I would just get the lsj pacesetter and call it done...



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Re: New eco header?
Sunday, May 17, 2009 10:19 PM
why waste money. if ur gonna do a header get one thats worthy.






Re: New eco header?
Monday, May 18, 2009 4:16 AM
Qwibby {T3H Old QBE} wrote:I would just get the lsj pacesetter and call it done...

This.
If you're having a customizing the DP, just get the LSJ pacesetter. You won't regret it



Re: New eco header?
Monday, May 18, 2009 4:42 AM
The LSJ header might sound like a great idea with the bigger primary's at 1 3/4" but bigger isn't always better. Unless you always plan on driving at full throttle..


Re: New eco header?
Monday, May 18, 2009 10:22 AM
Matt Burgess wrote:The LSJ header might sound like a great idea with the bigger primary's at 1 3/4" but bigger isn't always better. Unless you always plan on driving at full throttle..




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Re: New eco header?
Monday, May 18, 2009 3:17 PM
Matt Burgess wrote:The LSJ header might sound like a great idea with the bigger primary's at 1 3/4" but bigger isn't always better. Unless you always plan on driving at full throttle..


Never had a prob with the SS OBX header on the skwirl.

I had 3" exhaust on an n/a car too.. that never seemed to be a problem either.


rule of thumb isn't always the rule.






Re: New eco header?
Monday, May 18, 2009 3:51 PM
DaFlyinSkwir(LS61) /PJ/ OEM+ wrote:
Matt Burgess wrote:The LSJ header might sound like a great idea with the bigger primary's at 1 3/4" but bigger isn't always better. Unless you always plan on driving at full throttle..


Never had a prob with the SS OBX header on the skwirl.

I had 3" exhaust on an n/a car too.. that never seemed to be a problem either.


rule of thumb isn't always the rule.
agreed, i have the LSJ header and 2.5" exhaust on my n/a cav and its got plenty at part throttle



Re: New eco header?
Monday, May 18, 2009 4:04 PM
oldskool wrote:
DaFlyinSkwir(LS61) /PJ/ OEM+ wrote:
Matt Burgess wrote:The LSJ header might sound like a great idea with the bigger primary's at 1 3/4" but bigger isn't always better. Unless you always plan on driving at full throttle..


Never had a prob with the SS OBX header on the skwirl.

I had 3" exhaust on an n/a car too.. that never seemed to be a problem either.


rule of thumb isn't always the rule.
agreed, i have the LSJ header and 2.5" exhaust on my n/a cav and its got plenty at part throttle


I have the LSJ with a full 2.25 and its amazing. (besides the nasty rasp, i need a ressy bad).

1/4 throttle, 1/2 throttle, full throttle...its a great header...



















i think pacesetter should discontinue the L61 and market the LSJ as the header for both.



Re: New eco header?
Monday, May 18, 2009 4:18 PM
Wouldn't this header's 3" collector be a little overkill?

I want to improve lows and mids more than high end.

Anyone have this header so they can tell me where it shines in the RPM band?

Thanks!


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Re: New eco header?
Monday, May 18, 2009 4:21 PM
Mike85220 wrote:Wouldn't this header's 3" collector be a little overkill?

I want to improve lows and mids more than high end.

Anyone have this header so they can tell me where it shines in the RPM band?

Thanks!
It shines at 4000+ RPM, but the point is it does not detract noticably (IMO) from the lower rpms or daily driving.
Most will probably tell you if your only goal is to improve lows/mids, get a s/c or a v6/v8



Re: New eco header?
Monday, May 18, 2009 5:12 PM
DaFlyinSkwir(LS61) /PJ/ OEM+ wrote:
Matt Burgess wrote:The LSJ header might sound like a great idea with the bigger primary's at 1 3/4" but bigger isn't always better. Unless you always plan on driving at full throttle..


Never had a prob with the SS OBX header on the skwirl.

I had 3" exhaust on an n/a car too.. that never seemed to be a problem either.


rule of thumb isn't always the rule.


Only way to compare the 2 types of headers would be on the dyno and look at the graphs. Anybody coming from the stock exhaust manifold will notice a greater power output no matter what they throw on the back of the motor vs the stock manifold. The output on the stock manifold is smaller than 1 7/8" with that "D" shape . I'm sure the hp and torq differences of the 2 size of primaries are minimal anyways until you reach a horsepower greater than 175-200 mark. Like i said though, only a dyno would tell the differences
I thought you had the Tsudo header on the skwirl Paul?


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