Will this fit my ecotec? I know that the Saab 9-3 ecotec intake manifold is metal and will bolt up to my ecotec motor but will this work aswell?
SAAB 900 SE TURBO 97
no...i very much doubt it..only years was 2003 >up 2.0 eco turbo...
negatory.....needs to look liek this
sorry for the dirtyness of the pic
I was just hoping it would work.... the one for the 03+ eco saabs is almost impossible to find! I'm doing a turbo kit and I know I don't need it but i want one anyway just so I can get it ceramic coated and polished!
Thanks guys!
ive got a brand new 1 150.00 if ya want it
If you can hold onto it until March i can afford it then but I have some major bills approaching! Unless I can sell one of my art pieces...
i wish i could wait , i need the cash sooner than later
slick replied
Yeah, the plennum of the of the Saab Ecco-Tec Turbo (Similar yet different engine family) intake manifold was designed to help build boost charge, while the runners are tuned to assist in feeding it into the cylinder at a specific RPM by way of sonic resonance tuning (Read more about it from me in a thread on ITBs). My guess is that the intake valve timing on the American Eco-Tecs (By way of cam profile or what have you) doesn't match up with it, and lack of forced-induction also plays into effect of the miss-match-mash on performance. Not to mention whatever area dimensions are found in the runnners as well. In short: Turbo manifolds are meant to be used with turbos, end of story.
Go beyond the "bolt-on".
i know this a old topic but would this benfit a car runing nitrous? or be a good canidate for extrude honing?
not really on both accounts, unless you wanted something to tap for direct port nozzles, that's the only advantage of the saab manifold I could see. it flows worse than the stock plastic manifolds
How could it flow worse? I've seen the insides of a plastic manifold, and there appeared to be pockets in it, wouldn't that flow worse?
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DaFlyinSkwir(LS61) /PJ/ OEM+ wrote:not really on both accounts, unless you wanted something to tap for direct port nozzles, that's the only advantage of the saab manifold I could see. it flows worse than the stock plastic manifolds
The new SAAB manifolds actually flow quite well when flow benched and i have seen it used on applications in Sweden where some of the race cars are putting out close to 600+HP using them. Maptun, Nordic and SQR all have customer cars pushing 300+WHP on them as well.
steve hayes wrote:DaFlyinSkwir(LS61) /PJ/ OEM+ wrote:not really on both accounts, unless you wanted something to tap for direct port nozzles, that's the only advantage of the saab manifold I could see. it flows worse than the stock plastic manifolds
The new SAAB manifolds actually flow quite well when flow benched and i have seen it used on applications in Sweden where some of the race cars are putting out close to 600+HP using them. Maptun, Nordic and SQR all have customer cars pushing 300+WHP on them as well.
granted, butt dynos aren't worth much, but I've used a saab manifold on my L61 naturally aspirated, and was running 2mph slower and .3 off the usual pace with the stock plastic manifold.
the runners aren't equal length, they're sort of a 4-2-1 design with hardly any plenum volume. The L61 and LE5 manifolds are both made of plastic, but flow much much better for a naturally aspirated car.
throw boost at it, and I'm sure either is fine but there are better manifolds than the saab out there for both boost and natural aspiration.
but just as an aside for anyone doing eco hybrid/swap stuff, an LSJ head (saab head) you have to run the saab manifold because of the way the PCV system is routed.
Skwirl didn't you use the 2.4 L VVT Ecotec Mani? Did you dyno it or know how much you gained from it?
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DaFlyinSkwir(LS61) /PJ/ OEM+ wrote:steve hayes wrote:DaFlyinSkwir(LS61) /PJ/ OEM+ wrote:not really on both accounts, unless you wanted something to tap for direct port nozzles, that's the only advantage of the saab manifold I could see. it flows worse than the stock plastic manifolds
The new SAAB manifolds actually flow quite well when flow benched and i have seen it used on applications in Sweden where some of the race cars are putting out close to 600+HP using them. Maptun, Nordic and SQR all have customer cars pushing 300+WHP on them as well.
granted, butt dynos aren't worth much, but I've used a saab manifold on my L61 naturally aspirated, and was running 2mph slower and .3 off the usual pace with the stock plastic manifold.
the runners aren't equal length, they're sort of a 4-2-1 design with hardly any plenum volume. The L61 and LE5 manifolds are both made of plastic, but flow much much better for a naturally aspirated car.
throw boost at it, and I'm sure either is fine but there are better manifolds than the saab out there for both boost and natural aspiration.
but just as an aside for anyone doing eco hybrid/swap stuff, an LSJ head (saab head) you have to run the saab manifold because of the way the PCV system is routed.
If your just running a mild eco then port the stock plastic manifold and be done with it.
Areas to work on are:
Where the runners meet the head, they are aprox 1mm all around smaller than the head port. Match them to the head and as far back down the runner as you can reach.
The TB mount area...match it to the TB you are using.
The bottom of the TB mount/neck...if you look in you will only see runner 2 & 3. If you remove some of the webbing at the bottom of the neck you will see all 4 runners. This will give the air charge a more even path to all 4 runners.
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