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2.3l TB on a 2.2l?
Monday, December 06, 2010 1:17 PM
I am new on this forum. I have a 2000 2.2l cavalier. I was just reading that the throttle bodies from a 2.3l will work on my 2.2l. Is this true? Does anyone know if I need to modify anything to make it work or is there anything else I might need? What cars have the 2.3l? Are there any other cars that have throttle bodies that will work on my 2.2l? I dont have a lot of extra money but I would like to upgrade my tb. Does anyone know what size the tb is on my 2.2l? And what makes the tb from the 2.3l better than the one on my car?

Re: 2.3l TB on a 2.2l?
Monday, December 06, 2010 3:44 PM
Tis true. The 2.3 TB is 56mm IIRC and your stock one is 52mm or 54mm I cant remember but either way it isnt a huge difference. Changing the TB pretty much a complementary mod to having the head ported since the 2200 head is a bottleneck. Youll notice a shift in the powerband a little towards the high end but not a significant overall power gain.

You might have to do a little work with the throttle cable depending on what 2.3 you get the TB from. Youll need a vacuum tee since the 2200 has 3 TB vacuum lines and the 2.3 TB only has 2 ports.

Any TB from a 2.4 will fit also or so Im told. So if you can find a ported one for cheap it will work.



Re: 2.3l TB on a 2.2l?
Monday, December 06, 2010 5:03 PM
2200 TB is 52mm



Re: 2.3l TB on a 2.2l?
Monday, December 06, 2010 6:16 PM
LD9 tbs are 52 mm as well...

you should get one off of a 1995 Quad 4... you'll have a less chance that you will need to modify the TPS to make it work.



Re: 2.3l TB on a 2.2l?
Tuesday, December 07, 2010 2:51 AM
Hey sorry to steal your thread, but will any of the 2.4 or 2.3TBs fit on my 1995 2.2Ohv and be bigger?



Re: 2.3l TB on a 2.2l?
Tuesday, December 07, 2010 5:10 AM
No, the TB is cast as part of the upper plenum. It takes major machine work to change the TB it's self. You can get the throttle blade (butterfly) from a 2.3L Q4 and bore the throttle bore over-sized on the '97 & older upper plenum and TB assembly and install the blade on the throttle shaft.





Re: 2.3l TB on a 2.2l?
Thursday, December 09, 2010 2:06 PM
Speedline (No more) (GME Chat) wrote:LD9 tbs are 52 mm as well...

you should get one off of a 1995 Quad 4... you'll have a less chance that you will need to modify the TPS to make it work.
. So what year should I be looking for? I have been trying to figure out what cars have the 2.3l with really no luck. I read that the 2.3l was made between 88-94. And you said a 95 will work? is 95 the last year that has the 56mm tbs that will work for my 2.2l? What cars have the 2.3l quad-4s and does it matter if they are single or dohc?
Re: 2.3l TB on a 2.2l?
Thursday, December 09, 2010 7:16 PM
bradley weigelt wrote:
Speedline (No more) (GME Chat) wrote:LD9 tbs are 52 mm as well...

you should get one off of a 1995 Quad 4... you'll have a less chance that you will need to modify the TPS to make it work.
. So what year should I be looking for? I have been trying to figure out what cars have the 2.3l with really no luck. I read that the 2.3l was made between 88-94. And you said a 95 will work? is 95 the last year that has the 56mm tbs that will work for my 2.2l? What cars have the 2.3l quad-4s and does it matter if they are single or dohc?

2.3s are all dohc



Re: 2.3l TB on a 2.2l?
Thursday, December 09, 2010 7:45 PM
Ok. But does anyone what cars and what years are they in? And will any yeear 2.3l tb work on my 2.2l? I just want to get this right before I get the tb.
Re: 2.3l TB on a 2.2l?
Thursday, December 09, 2010 7:48 PM
Ok. But does anyone what cars and what years are they in? And will any yeear 2.3l tb work on my 2.2l? I just want to get this right before I get the tb. Btw, I have seen a 2000+ four door blue cavalier with 17in or bigger rims and possibly lowered on the j-body.org homepage. Does anyone know who's it is?
Re: 2.3l TB on a 2.2l?
Thursday, December 09, 2010 8:05 PM
Ok. Does anyone know what cars have the 2.3l and what years? Does the year matter or will any year 2.3l tb work? Btw, I have seen a blue 2000+ cavalier sedan with 17in or bigger rims and possilby lowered on the j-body.org homepage. Does anyone know who's it is?

Re: 2.3l TB on a 2.2l?
Friday, December 10, 2010 11:57 AM
Sorry for the multiple posts. I went to the junkyard today to get the throttle body. But how do I get the tb off of the aluminum intake plenum? The guy at the junkyard said the tb for the grand am/achieva/skylark 3.1l's are interchangeable with the 2.3l's. Does anyone know if this is true? I tried to call the local parts stores to research this but no one had a tb on file for either engine, just the tb gasket. Any ideas?
Re: 2.3l TB on a 2.2l?
Friday, December 10, 2010 12:06 PM
Wow..

Just tell them you need the tb off of a 95 Z24.



Re: 2.3l TB on a 2.2l?
Friday, December 10, 2010 5:23 PM
^^^This. They should be able to run the interchange in their system.



Re: 2.3l TB on a 2.2l?
Friday, December 10, 2010 5:41 PM
95 or not..all quad4 throttle bodys plug in the same to the harness...so he doesnt HAVE to have a 95..any year quad4 will be enough the same....however i still dont see it going on a 22



Re: 2.3l TB on a 2.2l?
Friday, December 10, 2010 6:01 PM
It does. Theres like 6 threads on this. Look it up.



Re: 2.3l TB on a 2.2l?
Monday, December 13, 2010 7:19 AM
scott (section8cav) wrote:95 or not..all quad4 throttle bodys plug in the same to the harness...so he doesnt HAVE to have a 95..any year quad4 will be enough the same....however i still dont see it going on a 22


It fits. And has been done for a while now..



Re: 2.3l TB on a 2.2l?
Thursday, December 16, 2010 5:10 PM
Ok. So now I have the 2.3l 56mm throttle body. What gasket do I need? Do I get the tb gasket for my 2.2l cavalier or the tb gasket for the 1994 grand am 2.3l the I got this new throttle body from?
Re: 2.3l TB on a 2.2l?
Thursday, December 16, 2010 7:25 PM
Ok. Now I got my 2.3l tb. Which engine do I get the gasket for? The 2.3l or my 2.2l?
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