So I'm probably getting a 3800 S/C with all the bits and pieces necessary to swap it all in for really cheap. Includes all the wiring and all the hardware. The only thing that we won't be familiar with is splicing and rebuilding the wiring. I DO have some experience with electrical work, splicing and soldering, just not in cars. Originally I was a computer tech by trade, and learned in a pretty old school shop, so this sort of thing should be pretty easy once I know what needs to be done.
So I assume I'll need to hack the wiring to the dash to work with my instruments, disable any factory alarms, and some other stuff I'm not thinking of.
2010 Honda Fit LX
i'm not so familiar with the gen2, assuming that's what you're swapping it into.
from the gen3, some users have been able to get the stock gauges to work by using a 2004 impala SS wiring harness and PCM. that's the route I was going to go to keep the OBDII port intact for emissions. others have run dual PCMs, essentially piggybacking the two together. and even yet some have run standalone after market gauges. it really depends on what PCM and harness you get it from, and the body harness of your car. I believe when Lenko did it he, he used the gauges and even the fuel pump from another car. VATS usually has to be disabled from the PCM using a product like hptuners.
this is a genII engine right? not the first gen?
you'll need to grab the wiring diagrams for both vehicles and the correct year before you tackle this. I mean the real diagrams, the Hayne's ones wont usually cut it.
basicly if you can't figure it out from wiring diagrams then your in over your head no one on here will tell you exactly what to do we will help if needed but if your looking for a step by step you came to the wrong place
i have built a few of them but wont build any for anyone outside of a 2 hour drive
and at this time i'm not building any for anyone as i am workin on my car
willing to help if you need it tho
JBO since July 30, 2001
How "right" do you want to do it? The best way here is to re-pin the harnesses with the correct length wire for everything. 2nd best way to do everything is to solder it and heat shrink every connection. Dont use crimp connectors please, just dont.
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bradley s wrote:
i'm not so familiar with the gen2, assuming that's what you're swapping it into.
from the gen3, some users have been able to get the stock gauges to work by using a 2004 impala SS wiring harness and PCM. that's the route I was going to go to keep the OBDII port intact for emissions. others have run dual PCMs, essentially piggybacking the two together. and even yet some have run standalone after market gauges. it really depends on what PCM and harness you get it from, and the body harness of your car. I believe when Lenko did it he, he used the gauges and even the fuel pump from another car. VATS usually has to be disabled from the PCM using a product like hptuners.
this is a genII engine right? not the first gen?
you'll need to grab the wiring diagrams for both vehicles and the correct year before you tackle this. I mean the real diagrams, the Hayne's ones wont usually cut it.
I'll have a Grand Am GTP wiring harness and ECU, and may be able to get the gauge cluster. If I'm swapping a 3.8 S/C, I'm sure I can hack up a dash. I've yet to see the wiring diagrams, but I'm sure I can find them. I should have mentioned as well, but in what is probably a rare decision with this swap, I'll be using the 4 speed auto from the GTP. My HM-282 is all but done for.
NOTa2_4 wrote:
basicly if you can't figure it out from wiring diagrams then your in over your head no one on here will tell you exactly what to do we will help if needed but if your looking for a step by step you came to the wrong place
i have built a few of them but wont build any for anyone outside of a 2 hour drive
and at this time i'm not building any for anyone as i am workin on my car
willing to help if you need it tho
Any help I will need later that you're willing to provide will be appreciated. I will be doing as much as I can on my own. The mounting and mechanical stuff I will have a bit of help for the obvious stuff that I can't do on my own (i.e. actually mounting the engine, and my welding skills are lackluster).
Leafy wrote:
How "right" do you want to do it? The best way here is to re-pin the harnesses with the correct length wire for everything. 2nd best way to do everything is to solder it and heat shrink every connection. Dont use crimp connectors please, just dont.
I've never used crimp connectors for anything. I think soldering and heat shrinking will suit my skill set better, so that will probably be how I do it.
I think this points me at pretty well everything I need now. Thanks guys!
2010 Honda Fit LX
is this accually a second gen if so might aswell go to V6Z24.com and get your info there i will NO help unless its a 3rd gen never done a 2nd and don't have access to a schematic unless its 98 or new
JBO since July 30, 2001
I've sifted through EVERY thread on V6Z24 and there really is very little information. Only a couple people have actually done the swap in a Gen 2. I'm now contemplating using my Beretta shell for the swap (since its in better shape overall). Is it worth it to run a standalone and custom gauge cluster? Obviously I have gauges in the car, but aside from the aethetic of it, would it make anything easier?
2010 Honda Fit LX
A 2nd gen might actually be as easy as extending a few wires and swapping a chip. You'd have to ask on V6z24.com what to do though.
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I gave him the info he needs as I WAS going to do it to my old second gen before I went 3400 turboed, but alot of fabrication, most of the wiring can be sliced and added to, the wiring is the easy part, its the actual install that sucks, alot of welding and cutting, its doable, and ALOT easier on a second gen then third gen.
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