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A/C Relocate
Thursday, June 02, 2011 5:51 PM
I guess this doesn't really fit in performance section but I don't know what section it really does fit in.

Anyways...

I was thinking in light of future turbo plans id like to relocate my a/c system...mainly the condenser. Its right in the way of where I want my turbo intake to go.

So im curious if anyone has done this, researched it, has any info on whats needed or could be done to say put the condenser in the fender well.

Re: A/C Relocate
Thursday, June 02, 2011 6:40 PM
you mean the accumulator/ receiver-drier. The aluminum can thing. Some have talked about playing with the N body setup that puts it in the fender well but have yet to see anyone do it. I looked into it at the yards while i was there. Seems the fittings are all different. Custom hoses would be in order.



Re: A/C Relocate
Thursday, June 02, 2011 7:59 PM
Yes that's what I meant. In regards to lines what is needed? Do they need to be solid aluminum lines or what?
Re: A/C Relocate
Thursday, June 09, 2011 6:35 PM
they dont have to be ,the skys the limit if you want custom a/c. Use what the hot rodders use.



Re: A/C Relocate
Thursday, June 09, 2011 7:02 PM
Philly D wrote:Yes that's what I meant. In regards to lines what is needed? Do they need to be solid aluminum lines or what?


solid aluminum?
Re: A/C Relocate
Thursday, June 09, 2011 7:33 PM
Lars wrote:
Philly D wrote:Yes that's what I meant. In regards to lines what is needed? Do they need to be solid aluminum lines or what?


solid aluminum?


Smart ass.... I meant aluminum tubing.

I have been looking into what the hot rodders use. I will have updates with what I come up with.
Re: A/C Relocate
Friday, June 10, 2011 6:17 AM
I too plan to relocate my Ac. Let me know how your route goes. Keep us updated.


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Re: A/C Relocate
Friday, June 10, 2011 8:34 AM
Vintage Air is what the rodders use.


Go beyond the "bolt-on".
Re: A/C Relocate
Friday, June 10, 2011 8:41 AM
DOHC_tuner wrote:I too plan to relocate my Ac. Let me know how your route goes. Keep us updated.


just be a man and delete it.



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Re: A/C Relocate
Saturday, June 11, 2011 8:16 PM
Nope..never deleting it..

Im making a quick daily...I still want all the comforts of a decent ride. Next on the list is full car sound deaden.

Anyways I went to the wrecker today and pulled a set of grandam lines and tried it on the ecotec ac compressor. No go....so its custom lines for sure. But the grandam setup does provide a perfect setup.

I think I with some hacking and welding I can make this work fairly easily. Really the only issues is the couplings on the lines dont fit the cav's. So im going to look into hacking the cav fitings off and welding them onto the grand-am lines.

Anyone know the pressure that the ac system is charged to?
Re: A/C Relocate
Saturday, June 11, 2011 8:22 PM
35ish psi low side and 250ish high side while running..... can go higher on the high side i believe. BTW those numbers are off the top of my head and i may be off a bit on the numbers.




Re: A/C Relocate
Sunday, June 12, 2011 5:52 AM
Thats cool....

It gives me a range. Should be no issue welding those fittings on then at those pressures.
Re: A/C Relocate
Sunday, June 12, 2011 9:52 AM
just make sure you have it vacuum leak tested when all done and don't just charge it. Pinhole leaks can cause serious problems. also im not sure welding to the reciever/drier is going to be a good idea.



Re: A/C Relocate
Sunday, June 12, 2011 10:14 AM
nah not going to weld to that...going to weld the grand am lines to the cav fittings at the compressor and the firwall....the rest will stay stock grand am. I may look into flaring and using fittings instead but I doubt there will be enough room. There was some interference when I was mocking it up.

My grandfather is a a/c specialist..all be it oldschool..he may have some ideas I havent thought of yet.
Re: A/C Relocate
Monday, June 13, 2011 12:01 AM
^ I think your grandpa would be a great source if help. I'm classroom-certified in auto-A/C and with all I've seen over the years, there's one thing I can tell you: The basics of A/C never change... only some of the minor parts of the method do.


Go beyond the "bolt-on".
Re: A/C Relocate
Monday, June 13, 2011 10:17 AM
Rich Grayo Jr. wrote:
DOHC_tuner wrote:I too plan to relocate my Ac. Let me know how your route goes. Keep us updated.


just be a man and delete it.


LOL....not with this Texas heat. Today its suppose to be 99!

And whats the deal with the vintage air? Mostly all the kits I see are still pulley driven?


GMR has got nothing on this
Re: A/C Relocate
Monday, June 13, 2011 5:56 PM
DOHC_tuner wrote:
Rich Grayo Jr. wrote:
DOHC_tuner wrote:I too plan to relocate my Ac. Let me know how your route goes. Keep us updated.


just be a man and delete it.


LOL....not with this Texas heat. Today its suppose to be 99!

And whats the deal with the vintage air? Mostly all the kits I see are still pulley driven?


I did not know there was another way to drive them.




Re: A/C Relocate
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 12:35 PM
I had a feeling alot of people missed my thread about "Electrical powered AC units"

Anyways its an expensive route.




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Re: A/C Relocate
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:46 PM
DOHC_tuner wrote:I had a feeling alot of people missed my thread about "Electrical powered AC units"

Anyways its an expensive route.


Geez. First electro-motive steering assist, now full-electric compressor operation... The latest I've heard is work being done on electric engine oil-pump drive. I know they're trying to minimize the amount of loads (parasitic drags) on the engine for the sake of mileage, but this last one seems like a mistake.


Go beyond the "bolt-on".
Re: A/C Relocate
Wednesday, June 15, 2011 11:27 AM
Nickelin Dimer wrote:
DOHC_tuner wrote:I had a feeling alot of people missed my thread about "Electrical powered AC units"

Anyways its an expensive route.


Geez. First electro-motive steering assist, now full-electric compressor operation... The latest I've heard is work being done on electric engine oil-pump drive. I know they're trying to minimize the amount of loads (parasitic drags) on the engine for the sake of mileage, but this last one seems like a mistake.
I agree completely.



Re: A/C Relocate
Thursday, June 23, 2011 5:06 PM
It helps....every little helps.


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