Seeing as I just graduated from High School my familys now found it fun to throw money my way(Im not complaining) but I got the cav to look how I like it and its time to make it run better. So I've decided to stick with the ln2 and was wondering if itd be smarter to build the motor and turbo it or build the motor and put a decent shot of nitrous on it. Thanks in advance for the advice.
Turbo boost needs no refills. Just ask Michael Knight.
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Defffffinately turbo, no refills, sounds so much better, easier on the motor, cost more but worth it IMO....and it's legal, well idk how your state feels about nitrous on the streets (if you'd keep this as a daily)
just remember, if its your only vehicle, there will be down time putting a turbo on, it will take a TON of turbo to get it remotely fast.... Nitrous you can bolt on in a few hours and its a lot less easier. The ln2 can take a TON of abuse as well, sure you have to refill it, but in the long run, unless you plan to take the car down for a long time, and dump a ton of money into a turbo kit.... id say spray it...
youre looking at for turbo:
manifold
turbo
plugs
top feed conversion
full exhaust
charge pipes
intercooler
wastegate
blow off valve
for spray:
wet kit
95LsCoupe wrote:Defffffinately turbo, no refills, sounds so much better, easier on the motor, cost more but worth it IMO....and it's legal, well idk how your state feels about nitrous on the streets (if you'd keep this as a daily)
lol
thats a good one
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Your motor build is going to be different for Turbo verses Nitrous.
Nitrous stresses the rods and rod bearings more than Turbo.
If built right you can make over 400whp on a boosted LN2 that will, take plenty of abuse. It will also need tuned properly. Nitrous tune is going to be different than a Turbo tune, and a Turbo tune will be more daily driver friendly over a nitrous tune.
I have ridden in a LN2 making 439whp and let me say AMAZING!!
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Screaming for Mercy!! wrote:I have ridden in a LN2 making 439whp and let me say AMAZING!!
Hold on...
Screaming for Mercy!! wrote:AMAZING!!
Yea... that deserved two. Kudos to that owner
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well i do have a seperate motor so i wont be without a car, and i get just about 350 every two weeks to put into the car soo im still undecided, love turbos for sure, but nitrous just seems to be so much easier.
spray is WAY easier... you could always buy spray now, run that while you get the money and parts saved up for the full turbo kit....
BuiltNBoosted wrote:spray is WAY easier... you could always buy spray now, run that while you get the money and parts saved up for the full turbo kit....
^wish i would have thought of that. whats a safe amount of spray to run on a stock 2.2 with just about 200,000 miles on it
Don't waste your time with spray, I've been that route on my ohv...in 3 months I went through 13 bottles at $35-40 a refill on my 10 lb bottle. plus the kit, safety switches and whatnot...it adds up quick. Just keep an eye on the part outs/classifieds to save some money on parts......iirc MD enforcer has a set of new LN2 rods on the cheap....start there..
You could do both, turbo it with a big turbo and use the nitrous to help spool it.
"Oil Leak ? What oil Leak ? Oh, Thats Just The Sweat From All The HorsePower!!"
you wouldnt need the spray for lag if you sized you're turbo correctly.
nitrous is well... fun. but, like others have said... if turbo is what you really want then go for that. id prefer an n/a car with nitrous but thats just me.
If you don’t have any sentimental value towards the vehicle it would be easier to sell the car and go purchase a cobalt SS/TC. Trust me it will cost you ½ of what it will to get this project completed and you will be much happier. With $350 extra each month that should cover your car payment easily.
DSMskyline wrote:You could do both, turbo it with a big turbo and use the nitrous to help spool it.
That would only be wise if one could limit themselves to a low-yield jetting (Like 50hp or less) and only used it during dire (re: emergency) needs is acceleration. I say this because one thing must be kept in mind with spray on turbos: Whatever the jetting is, it's result is approximately double on a turbo.
Wait... You have how many miles on it already!? Keep it stock & rebuild the spare engine as being prepped for anything, because nothing invites failure like pushing a tried-out engine to-hard.
Go beyond the "bolt-on".
JUCNBST wrote:Don't waste your time with spray, I've been that route on my ohv...in 3 months I went through 13 bottles at $35-40 a refill on my 10 lb bottle. plus the kit, safety switches and whatnot...it adds up quick. Just keep an eye on the part outs/classifieds to save some money on parts......iirc MD enforcer has a set of new LN2 rods on the cheap....start there..
I was just going to say, didn't anyone think of refills? yes the wet kit is cheaper off the bat, but it can add up fast. And it won't take a lot of turbo to make it fast, you could run 10-12 psi and run mid to low 13's if you're a decent driver, and for most, that's plenty fast enough. Age old saying of it pays to play, how much do you wanna pay?
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Qwibby PTE Powered wrote: Age old saying of it pays to play, how much do you wanna pay?
Correction: "Speed is just a question of money... How fast do you really want to go?"
That's one of the most oft-repeated lines from "Mad Max", and one of the truest in relation to automotive-performance building.
That, and this one of my own design: "It's not what you displace, but how you displace it."
I mean, think about it: Piston engines & turbines (turbochargers, in relation to the argument is here) are just air-pumps. What they displace is air, and as anyone who knows anything about breathing can tell you: The more air (oxygen) you can breathe, and the easier you can breathe it, the more total performance (power) you can achieve.
See the athletic, broad-chested man? See how easily he can breathe after running about as fast, for about as long, as the narrow-chested little fat could in a moment's notice... Before the less-athletic man got winded? That's what I mean. Spray or a turbo is just a way of displacing more oxygen within the engine... Turbos are just less sudden, and that's what about spray is hard on parts. Not to mention that because more total air is being displaced (force-inducted) with either method, than would be if the engine were only operation in a state of natural-aspiration, the dynamic-compression also rises. And the higher that is, the more... Well, you get the idea. In culmination of these two, the torque output is increased and the more easily the combination [of displacement from these air-pumps as an engine] moves the vehicle. The real trick is metering the fuel to the total amount of air entering the cylinders just-right, and lighting it all off at just the right moment. Otherwise, you're just wasting time & money... And that's the only way one would be on the LN2, or any engine for that matter.
Go beyond the "bolt-on".
