Can somebody please explain to me how this Cold Air Intake can possibly help with this gigantic 'kink' in the pipe right at the throttle body? Now as far as I know AEM has always been a reputable brand so I'm assuming there is some sort of logic behind this. It seems to me any benefit you would be gaining by relocating the filter to a cooler area would be lost here. Or is this, and the instruction pictures just bad shots? It looks like the pipe reduced by like 1/3 in size and bends almost in half.
For all the work you go through putting it in (based on their instruction sheet) Would the gains really be more than a simple Short Ram intake like K&N makes and just deal with the warmer air with less restriction?
http://www.aemintakes.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=21-448C
VS
K&N
http://store.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=69-4510TS
What do you guys think?
That's a bad angle. It's a cobra-head design.
All you did was show my a picture that doesn't show the pronounced bend lol. Why is a cobra head design better? I think what I need to see is the other side of it. like the left side, of the piece that connects to the manifold.
The bend is not a kink but a larger area to compensate for the sharp turn.
You won't really notice a difference between a WAI(Short Ram) and a CAI. You can search and read for hours about people arguing over this but I've had both on my motor and my butt dyno didn't register lol. I have a CAI now because I like the look of a shiny pipe compared to a filter and the risk of sucking up water is not that great.
Save your money and grab a cheap intake off eBay. Then toss the crappy filter that it comes with and grab a quality K&N or AEM and call it done.
I was thinking about this today, if I were going to do this I would probably move the battery back, and possibly inward a few inches. and make one so I could introduce it to the TB from a different angle rather than from below so it wouldn't need that bend.
as long as the cross-sectional area is consistent through the pipe (which it is, thanks to the cobra head) it doesn't matter if there are bends.
And if you don't like the bend, just buy a 90 degree connector for it.
I relocated my battery at a different angle... i have yet to fab my intake... so my filter sits right off the TB on my HO mani...
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Cadillacin wrote:I was thinking about this today, if I were going to do this I would probably move the battery back, and possibly inward a few inches. and make one so I could introduce it to the TB from a different angle rather than from below so it wouldn't need that bend.
The reason that bend is there is because a regular 90 will hit the hood. A cobra head is designed to flow just as well but in a cramped space.
If it wouldn't fit with a 90degree angle K&N wouldn't be using one on their WAI. From what I can see is, that cobra head is only needed to be shaped like that because the pipe is running from underneath the Throttle Body.
It looks like the reason it has to do THAT is because of the route it takes between the PS reservoir and battery.
I think moving the battery and a simple L shaped pipe coming out of the TB the whole way across to the wheel well, then a 45 or 60degree pipe(90 if need be) in through the same hole they're using would be the best approach. Not only would it not be jammed down between things, you would get a much smoother flow of air by eliminating essentially 2-3 bends(depending on how you get it into that hole) and the whole cobra head nonsense.
I agree that this is better than stock, but I don't think its going to out perform the WAI. And def wouldn't beat a straighter custom built one ending in the same location.(not that my design guesswork is necessarily the answer. But it'll certainly direct the air better.
I wouldn't mind hearing from NJHK-Kronos Performance after reading the intake/exhaust article that was posted.(lol not that I understand it all yet)
Mystic02VA (GME Chat) wrote:I relocated my battery at a different angle... i have yet to fab my intake... so my filter sits right off the TB on my HO mani...
>.< Like! Thats a really nice bay man. and thats where I was thinking the battery would be perfect as well. Are you going to run the fabbed pipe straight over? Does it look like theres a clear shot(clearance wise) without needing a full 90degree bend at the well to get in the same place AEM does?
with where my throttle sits, the pipe needs to go up slightly to clear the support that the battery tray had been attached to, and then curve down to reach the fender well...
