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LOOKING FOR HELP
Sunday, August 07, 2005 12:42 PM
I WAS THINKING OF DOING A 2.2 BUILD UP BUT AFTER LOOKING OVER THIS SITE I AM THINKING IT MIGHT BE BETTER TO GO WITHA 2.4 ENGINE AND TRANNY, 1996-97 LD9 MAYBE ONE OF THOSE MANY GUYS WITH THE 3.8 STILL HAVE AT I DONT KNOW I CAN HOPE PLS LET ME KNOW

Re: LOOKING FOR HELP
Sunday, August 07, 2005 1:45 PM
From what I've read the 2.2 to 2.4 swap is very complicated, it's almost as easy to just do the 3.8SC swap, but count on at least $5000 - $7500 and that's with doing 90% of the labour yourself.

As far as parts that are needed you will need...

- 99+ engine (I say this because the TB was redesigned in 99 for better flow and some PCM settings are different) but an older engine will work too.
- 3800 PCM
- 3800 engine harness
- All accessories and brackets that come with the 3800
- 2000+ 2.2l 5-speed tranny
- Custom flywheel (Racetech)
- 2.2 clutch (I recommend bully Clutches)
- 2000+ shifter assembly and cables (if you have a pre 2000 car)
- 2000+ master (if you have a pre 2000 car)
- 2000+ axles for the 2.2l if you don't already have them
- Custom subframe and mounts (Double Z Automotive)
- Custom wiring harness (Double Z Automotive) The 3800 harness will not plug into the bulkhead of a j-body)
- Oil filter housing that puts the oil filter at a 45 degree angle to the crank pully not the one that puts it at a 90 degree angle (there are two from the factory)
- Oil filter relocation kit
- Custom tuned PCM (Digital Horsepower wil tune the stock 3800 PCM)
- Your stock power steering lines will have to be rebent
- Custom downpipe (local exhaust shop) If you want to run aftermarket headers a section of the firewall will have to be cut out and a tunnel built for them and you will lose your heater box
- Custom intake setup
- A/C delete pulley (you do have room for the A/C compressor but running the lines would be a pain
- Custom rad hoses (can be peiced together using the rad hoses from a 2nd gen)
- Battery moved to the trunk (there is room for it under the hood but a new battery tray would have to be made.

I would suggest going to the 2000-2002 getrag tranny, but you don't have too (I might, I might not) - either way you need a really good clutch

THANKS TO RAVEN FOR THIS INFORMATION AND ALL THE HELP WITH MY SWAP


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Re: LOOKING FOR HELP
Sunday, August 07, 2005 2:02 PM
i alto of this is if i am not going with 96-97 motor right ?? thanks for that but i looking to do a 97-96 ld9
Re: LOOKING FOR HELP
Sunday, August 07, 2005 2:04 PM
This was for a 3.8SC Swap.......


Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with intention of arriving
safely in a well presevered body, but rather to slide in sideway with
a cigar in one hand, a rye & coke in the other -
Screaming What A F*cking Ride
Re: LOOKING FOR HELP
Sunday, August 07, 2005 2:12 PM
For the 2.2-2.4 Swap (This was taken from www.domestictuners.com)

This is exactly what you need and you will also need the PCM out of a manual or just get your friends VIN number or someones that has a manual and take yours to dealership and they will reprogram it.

*2.4L tranny
*Tranny mounts
*bolts for the tranny mounts
*bolts that go through the mounts
*Chassis brackets (need to be MIG or TIG welded)
*Flywheel
*Flywheel to crank bolts
*Pressure plate
*pressure plate to flywheel bolts
*clutch plate
*alignment tool
*slave cylinder
*Both axels
*Complete front wiring harness(different sensors)
*ECU reprogrammed by GM
*Shifter

*shifting cables
*shifting cables bracket
*bolts to mount shifting cable bracket
*clutch pedal
*master cylinder with reservoar and lines

That is pretty much it, and knowing how to make it all work




Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with intention of arriving
safely in a well presevered body, but rather to slide in sideway with
a cigar in one hand, a rye & coke in the other -
Screaming What A F*cking Ride
Re: LOOKING FOR HELP
Sunday, August 07, 2005 2:14 PM
ops wrong post that was for a tranny swap


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safely in a well presevered body, but rather to slide in sideway with
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