yeah from what you can see from the picture my car is kinda low already but i want to go lower anyways. what would be the best way to get the rear like the front is now and the front tucking by like 1-1 1/2 inch. lets say if money didn't matter. what does matter is performance. i don't really want to loose out on handleing cause i really like the way it is now for off ramps lol.
I've been as low as you're looking to go and I will tell you if you do it you ARE going to lose handling. My car road pratically on the cut bump stops and it was horrible to ride in. I wouldn't advise it for a daily driver.
Slammed Ohv (Baby Lenko) wrote:I've been as low as you're looking to go and I will tell you if you do it you ARE going to lose handling. My car road pratically on the cut bump stops and it was horrible to ride in. I wouldn't advise it for a daily driver.
you don't think so? well how did you do it and isn't there some sort or custom setup that could get me that low. like air ride or something.
Any form of coilovers seems to fit what youre looking for, however you'll need to upgrade your struts to konis.
^ or D-Specs. Coilover or maybe even sportslines.... Also may look into the Mantapart 2" drop springs too.
go ground control coilovers i've heard nothing but great things about them
if you want performance and handling, slamming your car all the way is not the best. the best drop for lowering your car is about 1" to 1.5" which is when the control arm is parrallel to the ground which is the best for handling
I was this low on ground controls, and it was still a horrible ride as you have no suspension travel. If you really want to go this low I'd suggest going with a nice air ride setup.
Yeah, I slammed my '99 Z24 with arospeed coilovers and hated it. Back to stock after less than a year.
Slammed Ohv (Baby Lenko) wrote:I was this low on ground controls, and it was still a horrible ride as you have no suspension travel. If you really want to go this low I'd suggest going with a nice air ride setup.
with ground control could i get the front tucking by at least 2 inchs? the thing is i want the car to still sit even like it is now but have the back quarter on the tire. so i need the front to tuck.
^GCs will get you as low as you want. But you're going to lose handling. Anything past 1.5" starts to lose, and the more you go the worse the loss.
tucking your fron tire is going to yield an less than optimal control arm angle and the car will handle like a grocery cart with a wobbly front wheel. however......if you must go that low for looks then air ride is your best bet.
PM Darkstars, he has a hell of a deal on his air ride for sale. That will be your best bet to be able to go low and still be able to clear stuff if the need be. He is selling his for an amazing price.
Prokit? My rear doesnt look that high up.
i have had coilovers the first time i hated them wrong setup but now i have rksport coilovers with d-specs and its a beautiful thing
i love it little stiff but if you dont mind that then i say go that way my rksports were 319 and my dspecs were 630 i believe or 530 i dont rememeber but i order everything through jason at aplus
I disagree with crappy air-ride handling. ART has proven time and again their kits provide handling as good or better than any standard spring setup. And with air you can set the car at optimal height for carving corners and when you want to cruise the strip all sexy like you can go lower at the flip of a switch, and then dump the bags and sit in the weeds when you're at the show. Yeah, you can do all that with coilovers, but you gotta get out of the car and do it by hand.
outside of the praxxis kit for subarus
http://www.turbomagazine.com/tech/0311tur_praxis_subaru_wrx_suspension/ , almost no air ride kit will be comparable to performance springs and performance struts.
if the kit is as good as STANDARD springs, basically thats comparing it to stock which are standard. stock handling isnt all that great.
fact is, its still air, air doesnt react the same as a gas pressurized strut with oil in terms of damping. the praxis kit makes spring rate changes, rebound and compression adjustability through pretty well thought out setup which was designed with H&R Springs.
as far as this "i wanna go lower and not lose out on handling" , everything is give and take.... going low as you described isnt gonna help handling... thats a given. so pick one... low with crap handling or where you are and i guess decent handling.
By standard I meant a conventional coil spring and damper setup. But I still stand by what I said. An air-ride setup can perform jsut as well as anything else out there. I've seen it. I've seen the muscle car guys run air on their cars and pull some decent lap times - way better than stock for sure, and pretty close to what you'd see from some coilover setups. Come to think of it, ART even proved it on one of the weekend TV car shows. They took a bone stock F-body, plugged in some data logging equipment and took it around the track, and recorded all the info for a baseline. Then swapped everything out for an ART setup, and smashed the baseline numbers to pieces. That's proof enough for me.
muscle car suspension is FAR different than ours...for one, most run live axle. i believe the F-body does as well correct?
not saying Air Bag setups can NOT run decent lap times, but just because it works for a vehicle with different suspension, live axle, IRS, etc... doesnt mean it applies the same for all.
as of yet, there have been NO realistic performance kits made for the j-body. right now, i'm just going off of application specific...
remember, throttle body spacers do wonders for muscle cars and f-bodies, but dont do jack for j-bodies....
in experience with the air bag kits made for our cars, i havent seen a car yet that sticks to a track with slight imperferctions, much less a parking lot made into an autoX course.
but like said, i am not denying air can work performance wise, as i already posted the link to the praxis kit as well... however j's are different than muscle cars and subarus...
ln2johnny wrote:By standard I meant a conventional coil spring and damper setup. But I still stand by what I said. An air-ride setup can perform jsut as well as anything else out there. I've seen it. I've seen the muscle car guys run air on their cars and pull some decent lap times - way better than stock for sure, and pretty close to what you'd see from some coilover setups. Come to think of it, ART even proved it on one of the weekend TV car shows. They took a bone stock F-body, plugged in some data logging equipment and took it around the track, and recorded all the info for a baseline. Then swapped everything out for an ART setup, and smashed the baseline numbers to pieces. That's proof enough for me.
that is comparing as you said it a bone stock f-body meaning a stock suspention.
im comparing my easystreet airride kit with adjustable damping to my old koni yellow adjustable suspention with ground control coilover, and where as the airbag isnt a horrible ride by any means when it comes to performance the konis and g/c had it beat easily. is my airride setup better then oem. yeah but were not comparing air to oem. were comparing air to a performance aftermarket strut/coil setup.
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