Ok guys like the title says i have a coilover suspension just the slip over kind, and was wondering is there a spring out there that is just a lowering spring that will fit the perch of the coilover sleeve so i can keep some of my adjustability and still be able to have a descent spring rate, if anyone knows how to answer this or knows anyone who has done this and has pics that would be a big help thanks .
CJ
no it will not work. the springs will not sit properly.
If they are Ground Control or RK coilovers you can get different springs from Eibach or H&R
Your profile says the coilovers are R1, so you are out of luck for that.
Like said above, the ground control coil overs can have different eibach springs made for them. You may want to think about switching to ground controls instead of those R1s.
yeah I've thought about that but for the past 3 years I've had these and they have actually been good to me not a crappy ride like most coilovers, mine actually came with a spring rate when I bought them but over time they've worn out and just need to have the springs changed, and what really is the difference in circumference of the GC coilover sleeve vs. mine ?? mine slid perfectly over kyb gr2's they were made to fit that brand though. If there is a spring set that would replace mine it would be eibach or h&r ?
CJ 96Z w/03 conversion wrote:yeah I've thought about that but for the past 3 years I've had these and they have actually been good to me not a crappy ride like most coilovers, mine actually came with a spring rate when I bought them but over time they've worn out and just need to have the springs changed, and what really is the difference in circumference of the GC coilover sleeve vs. mine ?? mine slid perfectly over kyb gr2's they were made to fit that brand though. If there is a spring set that would replace mine it would be eibach or h&r ?
im sorry but i bet they rode like crap. you probably havent rode in a car w/ a good suspension.
first off all springs come w/ spring rates. second those coils on those struts are a horrible combo. i can bet you 100% that if those struts have been on those coils for the last 3 years that those struts are blown. gr2s are oem replacements and not meant for lowering at all.
f you think r1's ride nice then your @!#$ retarted. You are on blown struts and are putting everones life in danger when you drive. Go invest some real money before you kill someone or go buy a @!#$ bicycle.
Look man if you don't have any input then I don't care to hear your opinion you don't drive my car and you don't know what my car is like, its entirely different then yours obviously, AND NO I am not on blown struts I have brand new struts so don't ASSume ask.
Look its this simple, if you don't have an opinion on helping me then I don't want to hear it, I post to get info not flamed if you don't like my set up then so be it its my car and my suspension not yours and out of all the people that i have ridden with my ride handles 10 times better than lowering springs
i bet it does handle better but r1 coils have a much higher spring rate because they are generally mass produced to fit on several different cars. to top it off if their on gr2s, even if they are brand new they are going to blow quick i can tell you that. im not trying to be a dick, im just trying to help you out so you dont endanger your life and the life of others around you when your out on the road
CJ 96Z w/03 conversion wrote:f you think r1's ride nice then your @!#$ retarted. You are on blown struts and are putting everones life in danger when you drive. Go invest some real money before you kill someone or go buy a @!#$ bicycle.
Look man if you don't have any input then I don't care to hear your opinion you don't drive my car and you don't know what my car is like, its entirely different then yours obviously, AND NO I am not on blown struts I have brand new struts so don't ASSume ask.
Look its this simple, if you don't have an opinion on helping me then I don't want to hear it, I post to get info not flamed if you don't like my set up then so be it its my car and my suspension not yours and out of all the people that i have ridden with my ride handles 10 times better than lowering springs
I was one them before so yes I do have input maybe people on this site know my experiances on them and know how @!#$ stupid i was for doing it. I have since then dropped a good chunk of money replacing my suspension and im still having problems with @!#$ that the r1's broke. If you really want to keep riding on them go for it but don't come bitching on here when wheel bearings go out or you bend your unibody, @!#$ up everything in the suspension. Trust us we have been there and most that reply in these threads know j-bodies and have been modding them longer then you have had your car. You have been modding since what breakfast?
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Eibach will make any spring you want. Just tell them the exact size and the rates you want. I think it's $70 per spring last time I checked.
Theres only like 3 sizes of small diameter springs- 2.25", 2.5" and IIRC, 1.75" (but you won't really see those on a car, mostly buggies and stuff). There are like 100 manufacturers of both 2.25 and 2.5" springs in about as many different length and rate combos as you could want (Eibach, H&R, Afco, BlueCoil, just to name a few). The kit on your car should be either of those two sizes. Measure it, then order the springs you want and put them in. The sleeve really has nothing to do with it, its the adjustable perch and upper perch that determine the diameter of the spring.
THANK YOU JAMES CAHILL, thats the answer I was looking for not someone like (CAVIE FREAK), who seems to think he's the best moodder in the world because he had something go wrong with his set up, and fixed it . Now all honesty I'm not trying to be a dick to anyone but don't think because you've had a problem with something or a part that someone else hasn't had a problem with that you can answer their question(S).
CAVIE FREAK :: that's right I have been modding since breakfast and modding all kind of cars since I was 13 so don't be an ass just cause you had problems with your coilover set up my car doesn't drive anywhere near as much as yours and I can bet that as a fact that you had problems but mine is strictly highway and thats about it, so sorry if you had problems man but ask what the situation is before input if you don't know what really is going on ...........
and thats my dime on anyone who ever has been chumpy towards anyone elses posts
CJ 96Z w/03 conversion wrote:THANK YOU JAMES CAHILL, thats the answer I was looking for not someone like (CAVIE FREAK), who seems to think he's the best moodder in the world because he had something go wrong with his set up, and fixed it . Now all honesty I'm not trying to be a dick to anyone but don't think because you've had a problem with something or a part that someone else hasn't had a problem with that you can answer their question(S).
CAVIE FREAK :: that's right I have been modding since breakfast and modding all kind of cars since I was 13 so don't be an ass just cause you had problems with your coilover set up my car doesn't drive anywhere near as much as yours and I can bet that as a fact that you had problems but mine is strictly highway and thats about it, so sorry if you had problems man but ask what the situation is before input if you don't know what really is going on ...........
and thats my dime on anyone who ever has been chumpy towards anyone elses posts
i know your not trying to be a dick and neither am i but dont be so closed minded about things. if you change the springs and get rid of the r1 spring you may have a better suspension but in all honestly r1 is not a good suspension. you may like it and thats all that matters but the spring rates on those things are ridiciously high. now even if you change springs and your still on gr2s, they are going to blow. im just trying to tell you so you dont waste money. yea you may say "well i dont drive it much and its all highway" but still give it one good bottom out, i bet its going to blow your struts. those struts are good for oem springs only. coils are way too much for them to handle. yea cavie freak may off came off as being a dick but all of us here try to help others so they dont run into the same mistakes as others. just because you havent had any problems doesnt mean you wont. im just giving you a heads up on the struts. they are going to blow and when they do its going to cost you money to get new struts and money for another alignment after your done. if the strut doesnt leak, that doesnt mean its not blown.
like i said we're only here to try and help people not make the same mistakes as others made. ive seen alot of people come through here and swear on their suspensions like yours and they come back and say "i need a new suspension because such and such broke this and that". I just dont wanna see someone make the same mistake as others. in the end though its your call and you can do what you want, all we can do is pass on the information.
CJ 96Z w/03 conversion wrote:THANK YOU JAMES CAHILL, thats the answer I was looking for not someone like (CAVIE FREAK), who seems to think he's the best moodder in the world because he had something go wrong with his set up, and fixed it . Now all honesty I'm not trying to be a dick to anyone but don't think because you've had a problem with something or a part that someone else hasn't had a problem with that you can answer their question(S).
CAVIE FREAK :: that's right I have been modding since breakfast and modding all kind of cars since I was 13 so don't be an ass just cause you had problems with your coilover set up my car doesn't drive anywhere near as much as yours and I can bet that as a fact that you had problems but mine is strictly highway and thats about it, so sorry if you had problems man but ask what the situation is before input if you don't know what really is going on ...........
and thats my dime on anyone who ever has been chumpy towards anyone elses posts
Well hate to say it but its not just me and everyone that ends up having the problems says the exact same thing as you. Oh I don't drive that much or I only do highway. If you really wanna risk it go for it but 99.9% of people on @!#$ ass ebay coilovers come back asking how to fix things and what to replace with. I bet your r1's didnt even come with the upper bearings to stop the metal or rubber top had from grinding on the strut mount. The only coilover setup that does is the ground controls. Some of us may come off as dicks and well I really don't care how people take me. Im not the best modder never claimed to be and never will be but I do know @!#$ coilovers and what struts you can lower on. I have done the research over and over again im my quest to make my car better. Honestly since you have been modding since 13 so you say you should have known better then getting high spring rate coilovers and also should have known not to lower a strut that isnt made to be lowered.
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