I am looking to lower my 04 sunfire sl 2dr. I would like to keep my stock struts....but do not know what type of lowering range i have. Can someone please tell me how much this car can be lowered with the stock struts...and if anyone knows any places in Toronto/York Region that can do this at a reasonable price.
Thanx in advance.
You can lower it all that you want on the stock struts, I'm lowered 1.6"F and 1.4"R on H&R springs. But in all honesty dont lower it unless you can get struts to match the springs. You'll thank yourself later down the road.
2009 Ford Mustang V6
DO NOT LOWER ON STOCK STRUTS.
The suspension FAQ says that lowering on OEM struts is not a good idea. The OEM struts on our cars seem to be of the lowest quality compared to most other cars. Any lowering spring you put on the car will surely blow them in a matter of months and then you are left with a bouncy ride that keeps on bouncing after you travel over bumps. I wouldn't recommend it, but if you are hell bent on putting a spring on your car, get what ever one makes you happy because I'm sure you will be upgrading your struts in 6 months to a year.
^^^^^^ it's true just do it right the first time. I'm looking into going with D-specs and sportlines as my new possible setup.
2009 Ford Mustang V6
Aight, thanx guys. i get the message. Then another idea of mine would be to add a body kit to it. Anyone know where in Toronto i may find a kit at a good price. 2004 2 door sunfire.
Double posting is bad, and so is lowering on stock struts.
don't lower on STOCK struts!!!!!! I did it and it was a bad mistake, Thankfully I got smart and bought me some KYB AGX struts to go with my Eibach Springs.
HOw much.. CANADIAN am i looking at for Eibach sportline springs and struts? I want to lower my car in a month or so for the summer... I'll do a check.. but i like to know what some of u guys have paid. Thanks.
this is going to be a very dumb question..... when Im looking at prices of struts.. is that a price for 2 or 1 or 4 lol.....
nvm.. got my answer.......this is going to be an expensive install? How much am i looking at for labour on spring/shock replacement?
research before you ask questions
chris stubbens wrote:nvm.. got my answer.......this is going to be an expensive install? How much am i looking at for labour on spring/shock replacement?
A local independant mechanic charged me about $350 for shop time and a new rear strut mount. My driver's rear strut was so badly seized into the mount that my mechanic just chopped it off at the top, and replaced the mount. That price also included installing new brakes that I had provided. I also paid an additional $90 for an alignment the next morning.
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i dont know what all this garbage is on lowering on stock struts. i've had the tein s-techs on all three of my cavs for over 2 years on the original stock struts and havent blown one yet.
Brett Basham wrote:i dont know what all this garbage is on lowering on stock struts. i've had the tein s-techs on all three of my cavs for over 2 years on the original stock struts and havent blown one yet.
do not listen to this retard. this is the type of person that will say its a little bouncy but its still good. the stock struts cant handle any drop. you probably have never ridden on a quality suspension to see what it feels like
ok douchebag. first off before you talk your sh*t realize what im saying. i NEVER said that it was a little bouncy but not too bad. i just said that i've been on the stockers for over 2 years with tein s-techs and haven't blown one yet. no it doesnt feel like a stock ride but you give me an example of any suspension set up on any car that feels exactly like a stock ride. wont happen. when you alter a vehicles suspension no matter what you do you won't have as smooth of a ride as the stock suspension. and i have ridden in a car with a good quality suspension set-up compared to a stock. yea it was smooth but not as smooth as stock. and im not saying that its gonna be smooth forever because face it even the "top of the line" struts and shocks blow out. all i'm saying is for being on stock struts i get a damn good ride out of my s-techs.
Brett Basham wrote:ok douchebag. first off before you talk your sh*t realize what im saying. i NEVER said that it was a little bouncy but not too bad. i just said that i've been on the stockers for over 2 years with tein s-techs and haven't blown one yet. no it doesnt feel like a stock ride but you give me an example of any suspension set up on any car that feels exactly like a stock ride. wont happen. when you alter a vehicles suspension no matter what you do you won't have as smooth of a ride as the stock suspension. and i have ridden in a car with a good quality suspension set-up compared to a stock. yea it was smooth but not as smooth as stock. and im not saying that its gonna be smooth forever because face it even the "top of the line" struts and shocks blow out. all i'm saying is for being on stock struts i get a damn good ride out of my s-techs.
you have no clue what your talking about so please stop feedin the forum full of
. i can tell you my buddies z with gc coils and koni reds ran just like it was stock. my car when i had the bags on it actally was better than stock.
yes top of the line struts blow but that take awhile to blow if your not abusing them. i can bet you that your stock struts are blown. take them off and pull all the stuff off then start to compress it. i can bet you its blown. lowering on stock struts is not safe so dont recommend it to other people who dont know anything about suspensions. if you want to ride on a half assed suspension then go head but dont tell other people that we're all wrong and its ok to do and yea your first post does say that so dont say thats not what you meant
my first post said this
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i dont know what all this garbage is on lowering on stock struts. i've had the tein s-techs on all three of my cavs for over 2 years on the original stock struts and havent blown one yet.
please all mighty one show me where i reccomended someone lowering on stock struts? did i? no i didnt. i just said that i've been on mine for a while and havent had any problems. and your thing about airbags on your car. YOUR ON AIR! of course its gonna feel like a good ride. why do you think they put air ride in all the luxury cars? the gc and koni deal. i'd have to ride in the car cause the only coilover combo i've heard of riding smooth are the tein super streets with edfc and all the other tein coilover combos with the edfc
you need to start wording your sentences better than. your orignal post
Brett Basham wrote:i dont know what all this garbage is on lowering on stock struts. i've had the tein s-techs on all three of my cavs for over 2 years on the original stock struts and havent blown one yet.
thats bascially saying what we all said is garbage which someone who doesnt know anything about suspensions will take it as this guy has done it so its ok. its not ok to lower on stock struts. if you meant that or not thats how someone that doesnt know anything about suspensions is going to take it.
now to this quote
Brett Basham wrote: and your thing about airbags on your car. YOUR ON AIR! of course its gonna feel like a good ride. why do you think they put air ride in all the luxury cars? the gc and koni deal. i'd have to ride in the car cause the only coilover combo i've heard of riding smooth are the tein super streets with edfc and all the other tein coilover combos with the edfc
i believe before you said
Brett Basham wrote:no it doesnt feel like a stock ride but you give me an example of any suspension set up on any car that feels exactly like a stock ride. wont happen. when you alter a vehicles suspension no matter what you do you won't have as smooth of a ride as the stock suspension.
you said any suspension. i gave you an example and now your changing your statement. plus you just said that you heard of the tein ss with edfc being smooth.
either you dont know what your talking about or you just worded things wrong
worded things wrong. i'm meaning on lowering springs/coilovers that dont come in a combo. like for instance the tein setups. i think he's refering to just some springs on his car. yea its not stock ride. struts are gonna blow eventually so why not do it for the time being? thats what i meant. i would have replaced my struts a long time ago if they would have blown but they havent. i've taken them apart numerous times while doing my sway bar and when i changed my clutch and when i did front wheel hub assemblies. i figured what the hell there out might as well check them. pulled the spring, compressed the strut and it came right back up and didnt stick at all.
of course any strut will blow but you have a say in how quick they will blow. to me lowering on stock struts is a waste. after every suspension change like that you need an alignment. when they blow you have to take time out again, spend money to get the right struts then spend money again to get it aligned again. to me its time wasted for something that could of been done once. not to mention that when the stock struts blow, your going to bounce when you hit a bump. try lane changing on the highway with blow struts and hit a bump. its gonna be fun to hold the car in place. not to mention riding around on blown struts will start to wear out other parts like cv joints.
I didnt take the advice of everyone and i lowered on stock struts
BIG MISTAKE
I was very unhappy with ti
I then went to Sportlines and AGXs and am now very happy
The install isnt that hard im sure you must know someone that can give you a hand, should take about 30 mins a strut to do
MAKE SURE YOU GET AN ALIGNMENT RIGHT AFTER INSTALL or your tires will melt away
i was very happy lowering on CM springs 1.8" drop all around on stock struts. Sure the ride isn't the best, but I seriously don't mind it. It got rid of my wheel gap. I will be getting some better struts soon though.
I want to share something with you - the three sentences that will get you through life. Number one, 'cover for me', Number two, 'oh, good idea, boss', Number three, 'it was like that when I got here.'
Myles wrote:Sure the ride isn't the best, but I seriously don't mind it.
obviously you do mind it or else you wouldnt of mentioned how horrible the ride is. maybe thats because your stock struts are blown. then again what do i know.
Myles wrote:It got rid of my wheel gap.
atleast you choose looks over safety
