I've been searching around for a while, and I can't find anything on it.
Are the brake line fittings on your Cavs an -AN fitting? Also I noticed that one of the 4 fittings on the master cylinder if a fine thread and the rest are coarse thread. Anyone know what the name of that fitting is too?
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if your feeling froggy you could always re-tap it..
or just shove it in there...a little jb weld...a lil duck tape....a little red paint and call it a day
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-AN fittings are more of an aftermarket universal size.
If changing out rubber hoses for SS lines the calipers or drums, you're going to need a M10x1.0 bubble flare female adapter for the hardline sides (front and rear). 10mm banjo for the calipers. XRP and Earl's make them.
For the ones on the master cylinder, they might also be the same M10x1.0 thread size, but I never took it apart to confirm it.
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Thanks Viper, they are the same thread on the master cylinder as the rest of the lines, just one is fine thread.
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You still going through with your plans there Tim?
You'll have to give us the how to and some pics to let us all see.
I still prefer the hardlines though.
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Thank you Dave and JBO! 
I'm planning on it. Having a hard time finding an adapter that goes from the M10 course thead to -AN and M10 fine thread to -AN.
Anyone ever come across something like that?
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I had no problems getting my M10x1.0 to -3AN fittings for the rear discs. I'm not sure what size you're needing but you may have to go direct to Earls or Aeroquip to get the adapters you're needing.
Once you've their part numbers, you can then order through Jegs or Summit.
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Thank you Dave and JBO!
Just re-tap the distribution block. There aren't any adapters to go to an line, believe me, i have looked lol. Drill and tap for 1/4 npt and get some adapters.
Final product
you know most -AN hose isn't rated for the pressures that the brake system sees, right? And that most isn't supposed to be used with brake fluid?
most of it is rated anywhere from 200-350psi... your brake system is going to be seeing 1000psi+
you need to buy specifically made brake hose or hydraulic line... the hoses I ended up using on the skwirl is pre-made earl's stuff. If you want to use hoses for.. whatever reason, I'd use any kind of premade specific -AN brake line.
they have a different construction than regular -AN hose that lets them withstand the pressure... teflon inner liner with stainless steel for protection.
you're still going to need adapters though. I wouldn't mess with the hardlines unless you want to move something or change something around or remove something from the car... hardlines are almost always more reliable than a hose. The brake system has hoses at points of flex only.. everything on the body and a small section on the rear axle is hardline.
what exactly are you trying to do?
DaFlyinSkwir(LS61) /PJ/ OEM+ wrote:you know most -AN hose isn't rated for the pressures that the brake system sees, right? And that most isn't supposed to be used with brake fluid?
most of it is rated anywhere from 200-350psi... your brake system is going to be seeing 1000psi+
you need to buy specifically made brake hose or hydraulic line... the hoses I ended up using on the skwirl is pre-made earl's stuff. If you want to use hoses for.. whatever reason, I'd use any kind of premade specific -AN brake line.
they have a different construction than regular -AN hose that lets them withstand the pressure... teflon inner liner with stainless steel for protection.
you're still going to need adapters though. I wouldn't mess with the hardlines unless you want to move something or change something around or remove something from the car... hardlines are almost always more reliable than a hose. The brake system has hoses at points of flex only.. everything on the body and a small section on the rear axle is hardline.
what exactly are you trying to do?
I got my hoses custom from XRP. When the stock lines rusted out i didnt want to have to dick with flaring and bending. Works great.
jmarks82 wrote:DaFlyinSkwir(LS61) /PJ/ OEM+ wrote:you know most -AN hose isn't rated for the pressures that the brake system sees, right? And that most isn't supposed to be used with brake fluid?
most of it is rated anywhere from 200-350psi... your brake system is going to be seeing 1000psi+
you need to buy specifically made brake hose or hydraulic line... the hoses I ended up using on the skwirl is pre-made earl's stuff. If you want to use hoses for.. whatever reason, I'd use any kind of premade specific -AN brake line.
they have a different construction than regular -AN hose that lets them withstand the pressure... teflon inner liner with stainless steel for protection.
you're still going to need adapters though. I wouldn't mess with the hardlines unless you want to move something or change something around or remove something from the car... hardlines are almost always more reliable than a hose. The brake system has hoses at points of flex only.. everything on the body and a small section on the rear axle is hardline.
what exactly are you trying to do?
I got my hoses custom from XRP. When the stock lines rusted out i didnt want to have to dick with flaring and bending. Works great.
skipped RIGHT over your first post lol
tapping the dist block is prolly the best way to do it.. when I was going to keep it, thats what I did for the inputs, not the outputs.. but i've redone everything since then and redid all my hardlines...
but, premade hose is fine... thats the only way to do it unless you have a mandrel for making hydraulic hose ends, I just want to make sure he knows you can't use regular -AN lines and fittings (designed for fuel or coolant for example) with a braking system. the two outputs from my MC going to my dist block are braided, but everything on the chassis after that is hardline
I'm changing the system around again a little later down the line, most likely going to do hardlines out of the MC but hoses are fine if they're premade brake specific.
PJ, Tim was wanting to change the hardlines over to stainless lines.
I've already suggested that he stick with the hardlines for the same reasons as you've implied.
They really are the best for hydraulic purposes which is basically what a braking system is comprised of.
But what Jmark has is pretty sweet looking as well as your setup too.
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Thank you Dave and JBO!
JMarks, I knew I had seen someone with them at the Bash, just couldn't remember who. Thanks for the info.
Skwir, yeah I know I have to get lines specially for brakes. I actually just looked up what the average pressure in a brake line was and I was surprised it was that high. Thanks for you input too.
Recently I had my two rear lines rust out, and replaced them both. The one time I let someone else do something to my car, and it ends up looking like crap. I'm not planning on replacing everything, just running the braided down to the bottom of the car. The brake lines were put together as several pieces so I only have to run the braided to right about where the pedals are.
James, sorry I wasn't more specific earlier, I am taking your advice to keep the hard lines, just want to make things look a little better under the hood.
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If you have any questions let me know. I worked with Josh Dearman for the brake lines. I am getting him a list of the updated lengths we used. He can get you everything you need.
PJ I agree with everything you said. I just didnt have the equipment for the hardline and it was easier. Hardline would be the way to go but this works great.
Viper98912 wrote:-AN fittings are more of an aftermarket universal size.
If changing out rubber hoses for SS lines the calipers or drums, you're going to need a M10x1.0 bubble flare female adapter for the hardline sides (front and rear). 10mm banjo for the calipers. XRP and Earl's make them.
For the ones on the master cylinder, they might also be the same M10x1.0 thread size, but I never took it apart to confirm it.
Any idea if these will work?
BANJO FITTING
ADAPTERS
12" lines w/ built in banjo
^ No, you need bubble flare, not inverted flare. I've posted the part numbers from Earl's from Summit Racing in the neon rear disc thread many times. Look through there for the part numbers. They begin with an ERL-
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Alright... How about these? Just got done searching through the neon swap thread. LOL
adapters
front lines
rear lines
Keep in mind these lengths are for my cavy w/ the nfw front and alero IRS.
Hehehe glad I could help.
