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willwood rear disc brake conversion help
Sunday, October 11, 2009 3:43 PM
i have a 96 cavalier 2 door. i saw a pic of a cavalier on this jbody.org site of willwood disc brake conversion on the rear. does anybody know of a website that i can go to to get this convesion kit and that way i can put it on my car. thanks

Re: willwood rear disc brake conversion help
Sunday, October 11, 2009 3:46 PM
There is no wilwood conversion kit (yet, someone on the org. is building a kit that utilizes wilwood calipers and such). That was a one time prototype, the only one.



Re: willwood rear disc brake conversion help
Monday, October 12, 2009 3:42 AM
Isaak wrote:There is no wilwood conversion kit (yet, someone on the org. is building a kit that utilizes wilwood calipers and such). That was a one time prototype, the only one.


x100

I would still like a kit or at least a parts list so I can build my own




Jason
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190hp/170tq @ 6psi

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Re: willwood rear disc brake conversion help
Monday, October 12, 2009 9:38 AM
Blwn: a parts list will do you no good honestly...you can't even make the same kit that EvoFire (who has the kit) has on his car. There aren't any parts left available from Wilwood to make it and they won't give out the part numbers anyway.

Nate: Currently OEM is the only way to possibly get a kit (once he finishes designing it and produces it), unless you fab up your own.
Re: willwood rear disc brake conversion help
Monday, October 12, 2009 9:51 AM
there are replacement parts available for the kit that evofire has, just not many.

I would just make your own kit using the calipers of your choice.



Re: willwood rear disc brake conversion help
Monday, October 12, 2009 10:54 AM
Talk to Atomic. I know at one time he was working on a rear willwood setup not sure how it panned out.
Here is a link to his profile.
http://www.j-body.org/members/atomic/



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Re: willwood rear disc brake conversion help
Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:26 AM
LoudCav wrote:Blwn: a parts list will do you no good honestly...you can't even make the same kit that EvoFire (who has the kit) has on his car. There aren't any parts left available from Wilwood to make it and they won't give out the part numbers anyway.

Nate: Currently OEM is the only way to possibly get a kit (once he finishes designing it and produces it), unless you fab up your own.


A parts list would be helpful. I can check dimensions of the parts and see what parts I can substitute. I don't think OEM will make one until someone pays for one first

Wade Jarvis wrote:Talk to Atomic. I know at one time he was working on a rear willwood setup not sure how it panned out.
Here is a link to his profile.
http://www.j-body.org/members/atomic/


I will send an email to Atomic about it




Jason
99 Z24 Supercharged
157hp/171tq - NA
190hp/170tq @ 6psi

LG0/LD9 for Life
Re: willwood rear disc brake conversion help
Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:38 AM
Wade Jarvis wrote:Talk to Atomic. I know at one time he was working on a rear willwood setup not sure how it panned out.
Here is a link to his profile.
http://www.j-body.org/members/atomic/

Pretty sure he sold his setup recently.





Re: willwood rear disc brake conversion help
Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:40 AM
Why not just copy the Baer setup...... there are a few of us that bought the brackets in the GP years ago and some must still be floating around somewhere, my setup works quite nice. You have the option of Camaro or Corvette caliper (Baer uses Camaro, I used the Corvette). It's a 12" kit that utilizes the C4 Corvette rotor redrilled 5x100 and copied Baer brackets, spacers are needed between the caliper and the bracket so the pads contact the rotor properly... just a thought.



Re: willwood rear disc brake conversion help
Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:29 AM
Isaak wrote:Why not just copy the Baer setup...... there are a few of us that bought the brackets in the GP years ago and some must still be floating around somewhere, my setup works quite nice. You have the option of Camaro or Corvette caliper (Baer uses Camaro, I used the Corvette). It's a 12" kit that utilizes the C4 Corvette rotor redrilled 5x100 and copied Baer brackets, spacers are needed between the caliper and the bracket so the pads contact the rotor properly... just a thought.


I currently have the SSBC setup on the rears and it works pretty well once the ebrake is setup. My issue is purely cosmetic as I would like to have my rear brakes match my fronts. The wilwood rear ebrake caliper uses a radial mount instead of the standard brake setup used by Baer & SSBC so making the brackets and spacing is a little more difficult




Jason
99 Z24 Supercharged
157hp/171tq - NA
190hp/170tq @ 6psi

LG0/LD9 for Life
Re: willwood rear disc brake conversion help
Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:38 AM
My bracket is a flat piece of steel with holes in it... I don't see the difficulty, unless ofcourse one cannot do proper mechanical work like attaching the hub to it and drilling the holes for it and then figuring out where the caliper must be, it really is not that difficult, spacers are literally washers, nuts, whatever you want to use, I used nuts to keep it adjustable.




Re: willwood rear disc brake conversion help
Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:43 AM
this is a just in case, but for those of you who don't know OEM has the willwood kit fup or sale now OEM Wilwood 12" Kit


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Re: willwood rear disc brake conversion help
Tuesday, October 13, 2009 11:11 AM
LoudCav wrote:Blwn: a parts list will do you no good honestly...you can't even make the same kit that EvoFire (who has the kit) has on his car. There aren't any parts left available from Wilwood to make it and they won't give out the part numbers anyway.


My rear breakes are based off of a production kit that Wilwood made back in the day and phased out about 2-3 years ago. The backing plate has been modified though. Really for some of the parts, Wilwood (last time I checked) only has 2-3 listed in stock. I have every part number for every part in my kit, and there are a few that are none existant because of the phase of of the kit.



Re: willwood rear disc brake conversion help
Tuesday, October 13, 2009 12:24 PM
Just do the neon setup its cheap and works great.



Re: willwood rear disc brake conversion help
Tuesday, October 13, 2009 1:31 PM
SLO CAV (the autoxing one) wrote:Just do the neon setup its cheap and works great.


Exactly, take off drums, attach the neon stuff, very little modifications need to be done to make it work 100% (trimming of dust shield, parking brake, etc.)



Re: willwood rear disc brake conversion help
Sunday, October 18, 2009 12:01 PM
Wade Jarvis wrote:Talk to Atomic. I know at one time he was working on a rear willwood setup not sure how it panned out.
Here is a link to his profile.
http://www.j-body.org/members/atomic/


Here is what Atomic had to say
"It ended up being to costly for me to put kits together. My brackets were going to be in the $200 range and to complete the kit would have been over 1,000. I don't think i would have sold many kits if any. "

Isaak wrote:My bracket is a flat piece of steel with holes in it... I don't see the difficulty, unless ofcourse one cannot do proper mechanical work like attaching the hub to it and drilling the holes for it and then figuring out where the caliper must be, it really is not that difficult, spacers are literally washers, nuts, whatever you want to use, I used nuts to keep it adjustable.


Yes, for the Baer and SSBC kits, a flat piece of steel is fine, but for the Wilwood you would need a 2 piece bracket ( if you are using the combination ebrake caliper ). One piece is the same flat piece of steel you mention, the second is the radial mount that will bolt to the caliper and to the flate piece of steel.






Jason
99 Z24 Supercharged
157hp/171tq - NA
190hp/170tq @ 6psi

LG0/LD9 for Life
Re: willwood rear disc brake conversion help
Sunday, October 18, 2009 5:24 PM
Exactly my point, its much easier to fabricate rear discs for a Baer/SSBC/Neon kit than the Wilwood. I don't understand why everyone wants the wilwood discs, besdes the fact the pads are easier to change... all of my rear disc stuff is off the shelf parts.



Re: willwood rear disc brake conversion help
Monday, October 19, 2009 3:32 PM
SLO CAV (the autoxing one) wrote:Just do the neon setup its cheap and works great.





but looks no where near as good as a rear wilwood setup would. not to mention the wilwood would outperform the neon swap.


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Re: willwood rear disc brake conversion help
Monday, October 19, 2009 5:36 PM
I just did some checking. The radial mount from the Wilwood jbody front brake kit will fit the Wilwood combo caliper

Now the tricky part is the hat offset for the rotors




Jason
99 Z24 Supercharged
157hp/171tq - NA
190hp/170tq @ 6psi

LG0/LD9 for Life
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