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Which is better - sway bars
Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:26 AM
Eibach Anti-Roll Sway Bar Set - Front & Rear
http://www.gravanatuning.com/prod_images/large/EIB-3860.320.jpg


Addco Front & Rear Sway Bar Set
http://www.gravanatuning.com/prod_images/large/ADD-586-638.jpg


Personally i sway more toward addco, But which is better for a 2000 Sunfire, seeing alot of Daily driving, and at least twice a week for spring, summer, and fall, autoX use?






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Re: Which is better - sway bars
Thursday, April 28, 2005 12:10 PM
Only diff in the sets, Addco uses the 1" rear.
Both use 1" fronts.

Now, Addco DOES make the 7/8" rear like Eibach, but its kind of a special order item.

Both sets will lean with understeer.
The Addco set less so.
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Re: Which is better - sway bars
Thursday, April 28, 2005 12:18 PM
I'm also ready to order and can't decide on which one to get...



Re: Which is better - sway bars
Thursday, April 28, 2005 1:38 PM
I would say Addco. I think you will pay a lot for the name with Eibach where with Addco you'll get more quality for the cost.

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Re: Which is better - sway bars
Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:21 PM
If Im correct, they cost the same. I would go with the addco.





Re: Which is better - sway bars
Thursday, April 28, 2005 3:08 PM
if you car has the FE0 or FE1 suspension , then the 1" rear bar is a better choice

if you have the FE2 then the smaller rear bar would be best , the FE2 has a bar in the rear arm to begin with , which is why the smaller is a better choice








Re: Which is better - sway bars
Thursday, April 28, 2005 3:41 PM
Quote:

FE2 has a bar in the rear arm to begin with , which is why the smaller is a better choice


Where is this?

-M


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Re: Which is better - sway bars
Thursday, April 28, 2005 4:52 PM
Quote:

if you car has the FE0 or FE1 suspension , then the 1" rear bar is a better choice

if you have the FE2 then the smaller rear bar would be best , the FE2 has a bar in the rear arm to begin with , which is why the smaller is a better choice



man and I bought that rear bar for nothing!!! lol who lied to you so I can go slap 'em for you?
there is NO stock rear anti-sway bar on any third gen, now in the 2006 model year that might happen, but I doubt it.

now the difference in the fe0, fe1, fe2 is the size of the front stabilizer, none, 18-19mm, and 22mm. I remember someone saying that the last couple of yeas had fe3 which had a 24mm front bar.some will argue different springs and struts as well. other than that the STB on the verts is about it for suspension. its been a long day so I probably forgot something. anybody?



Re: Which is better - sway bars
Thursday, April 28, 2005 6:43 PM
Cinny wrote:
Quote:

if you car has the FE0 or FE1 suspension , then the 1" rear bar is a better choice

if you have the FE2 then the smaller rear bar would be best , the FE2 has a bar in the rear arm to begin with , which is why the smaller is a better choice



man and I bought that rear bar for nothing!!! lol who lied to you so I can go slap 'em for you?
there is NO stock rear anti-sway bar on any third gen, now in the 2006 model year that might happen, but I doubt it.

now the difference in the fe0, fe1, fe2 is the size of the front stabilizer, none, 18-19mm, and 22mm. I remember someone saying that the last couple of yeas had fe3 which had a 24mm front bar.some will argue different springs and struts as well. other than that the STB on the verts is about it for suspension. its been a long day so I probably forgot something. anybody?


I have a 2002 and I definitely have a rear sway bar. I'm pretty sure I also had a front one too. The rear is in that suspension arm connecting the two struts together. You must climb under the car to see it. But, now that I think of it, I definitely had one both up front and in the rear.


Re: Which is better - sway bars
Thursday, April 28, 2005 6:59 PM
You're almost there... the FE2 for sure, and I think FE1 as well (not sure on that tho, I'll have to check my 'verts, both are FE1).... have a rear STABILIZER bar... not an anti-sway bar. It's up inside the rear axle... little tiny thing. I doubt it's more than 10mm thick.

Puny.






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Re: Which is better - sway bars
Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:14 PM
Ok, so it's a stabilizer bar.

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

Haha, I didn't call it an axle, I'm such a dumbass. WTF was I thinking?



Re: Which is better - sway bars
Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:21 PM
thats not an anti-sway bar man, it does stabilize the trailing arm but it does not reduce body roll, nor was it intended to do so., think of it like the SFB in the front, it helps the trailing arm do its job more efficiently, it does not control body roll.
unless that bar, which I know is welded to the inside of the angle iron of the trailing arm, comes down the arms themselves, it will do nothing to reduce body roll.

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Re: Which is better - sway bars
Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:32 PM
All i know at tis moment in time is that my car has no swaybars whatso ever.




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Re: Which is better - sway bars
Friday, April 29, 2005 12:14 PM
neither is better, they are all in what you want to accomplish on your car.

addcos are 25.4 for the most part front and rear.

some kits have a 25.4 front and 22 rear.

addco does make smaller ones for other companies kits i believe, like sway-away makes some for rksport a while back i believe.

depending on how braced your suspension already is, or is planning to be, you might not need as large a rear bar, or you might rather have oversteer or understeer.

so far with our cars a swaybar is a swaybar no matter where it comes from. as of yet i havent heard of any company making some hollow bars like hotchkis makes which also has force adjustment so you can change the amount of force the bar gives within a minute or two by moving the link leverage position.

other than that for our car, the easier ones to put in are addco, rksport, and eibach for the rear. hellwig is a bit harder, and the progress has issues with rubbing on the brake line from what bearsfan posted ages ago.

the fronts....well most know thats tedious but doable.

addco makes a adjustable endlink, but thats still up in the air on the force effectiveness.



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